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[–]magnora7[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Nah Sweden participates in NATO and interacts deeply with US intelligence agencies. It's not as free for us as Norway, who takes their security more seriously. We'd probably be better off in Texas than Sweden, tbh. Plus the ping isn't as good as Norway :P

[–]bablarb 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

well, Norway is a core NATO member (unlike Sweden) and interacts even more deeply with the NSA:

https://theintercept.com/document/2018/03/01/nsa-intelligence-relationship-with-norway-april-2013/

I'd be surprised if their network traffic isn't 100% exposed to US surveillance.

[–]Stoner 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's true and indefensible for Internet traffic. I'm absolutely sure none of Switzerland international connections goes thru a US friendly country...

Or are you thinking that the relationship compromises hosting any further than the clowns already hacking the planet?

[–]bablarb 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm absolutely sure none of Switzerland international connections goes thru a US friendly country...

why the sarcasm?

Having a compliant government grant access to both end-points makes life easier than doing mid-point intercepts, I thought.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

[–]Stoner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you mean the current standard where intelligence agencies shares meta data with each others as a compliant government, that IS mid point intercepts and happens in a lot of western countries and affiliates. It includes transport traffic so even if a country isn't in on it, the traffic most likely goes through a country that is.

As far as I know neither Norway nor Switzerland has legislation that allows them to specifically ghost crew a site and spy on the users (i.e. the US), nor do the IA's have open access to meta data.