Should Saidit be hosted in Norway or Switzerland?

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[–]bablarb 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

well, Norway is a core NATO member (unlike Sweden) and interacts even more deeply with the NSA:

https://theintercept.com/document/2018/03/01/nsa-intelligence-relationship-with-norway-april-2013/

I'd be surprised if their network traffic isn't 100% exposed to US surveillance.

[–]Stoner 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's true and indefensible for Internet traffic. I'm absolutely sure none of Switzerland international connections goes thru a US friendly country...

Or are you thinking that the relationship compromises hosting any further than the clowns already hacking the planet?

[–]bablarb 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm absolutely sure none of Switzerland international connections goes thru a US friendly country...

why the sarcasm?

Having a compliant government grant access to both end-points makes life easier than doing mid-point intercepts, I thought.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

[–]Stoner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you mean the current standard where intelligence agencies shares meta data with each others as a compliant government, that IS mid point intercepts and happens in a lot of western countries and affiliates. It includes transport traffic so even if a country isn't in on it, the traffic most likely goes through a country that is.

As far as I know neither Norway nor Switzerland has legislation that allows them to specifically ghost crew a site and spy on the users (i.e. the US), nor do the IA's have open access to meta data.