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[–]Canbot 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

CONSERVATIVES: Christian and all about "Jesus,"

This is a left wing understanding of conservatives. In reality being conservative has nothing to do with religion.

hates Jews and fags and laughs at the thought of people "burning in Hell for all eternity.

Completely untrue in every respect. Recognizing the evils that jews do is not "hating jews". That is a dismissive slander that implies that calling out jews is irrational, emotional, and unfair. It is also completely divorced from political leanings as a lot of conservatives are just as brainwashed on the jewish topic as liberals, and many liberals recognize jewish crimes like the genocide of palestinians.

And again religion has nothing to do with conservatism so burning in hell is not something conservatives even believe in, nor do they wish ill will on people for being gay or jewish.

"Pro-life" but not a vegan,

Human life. obviously. This argument is so dumb that I know you were fully aware of how illogical it is and still wrote it thinking you did something. Clearly you are biased and care more about insults than about intelligent conversation. Do better.

hates welfare,

wrong again. Welfare in moderation is fine. The problem with it is that there is too much already and still the left demands more and says that there is none because all the poverty of 100 years ago not only exists but is worse. If that is the case then welfare does not work and we should get rid of it. Obviously doing more of something that does not work is fucking stupid.

uses condoms

Conservatives are far less likely to use condoms than liberals because they value marriage and family over sex with strangers.

owns guns

At least you got one thing right.

Believes in "The Constitution and Liberty" but doesn't respect The Separation of Church and State

Again, your conflation of religion and conservatism is wrong. Furthermore, no one is advocating for laws respecting religious doctrine.

wants government overreach to force unwanted parenthood on people clearly too incompetent and reckless to be capable parents

wrong again. The pro life argument is about saving the lives of innocent babies. There is absolutely nothing about that which insists that the parents have to raise the child. They should be held financially liable.

six week old embryos are the same exact lifeform as a two year old child" religious bullshit.

No one ever said it is "the exact same thing". It is however a living human being. Not a religious belief. It is literally a biological fact.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Part 2


Conservatives are far less likely to use condoms than liberals because they value marriage and family over sex with strangers.

"Conservatives don't fuck for fun," is what you're implying. Even if your statement was true, it's still hypocritical as shit. Condoms and contraceptives are literally abortion. It's also "anti-natural" if you want to get into the whole God shit. Without condoms, the woman would be impregnated. The only logic plothole involved here is using the idiotic logic that "it doesn't count until it reached the egg," even though without condoms, the sperm would've reached the egg anyway, so it's still abortion. It's still "preventing human life," as conservatives describe it. It doesn't make any sense to separate sperm and an embryo, anyway. Neither one is an actual baby. Babies aren't formed until the third trimester, which is six months along the pregnancy. So it's impossible for anyone to be pro-life, use condoms (let alone any form of recreational sex, including no condoms, tubes tied, getting snipped, or the "pull-out method"), and not be a huge fucking hypocrite.

"Abortion is murder because you prevented a life from being born, but using condoms to prevent a life from being born, is acceptable." Make that shit make sense...


no one is advocating for laws respecting religious doctrine.

Man... I'm not even going to send you a thousand different links here, cause you wouldn't read them. I mean, you're just objectively wrong. Just Google Kristi Noem and Ron DeSantis, yourself dude. You're just objectively wrong here and I'm surprised you'd even try to argue this with as much as Republican politicians talk about pushing more Christianity/religion into US laws.

Not even getting into that, the Separation of Church and State means you can't mention anything about religion influencing and affecting law and government. But since America has been shitting all over that idea for hundreds of years now, it doesn't even matter much anymore. Still pointing out how it's against the Constitution and what the Founding Fathers wanted, though others interpret it in other ways. Let's just put it this way: Replace Christianity with Islam or Wokeism, and see if it's still okay to ignore the Separation of Church and State. I honestly don't even care that much about it; my point is that people are hypocritical all the time about shit and willing to look the other way when things benefit them or they agree with them.


The pro life argument is about saving the lives of innocent "babies."

Except 1) it's objectively not a baby, hence the terms "embryo, fetus, and baby," 2) your opinion on it being "baby murder" is just that; an opinion, and 3) the important point: no one gives a fuck what some random guy in Iowa or Arkansas thinks about their right to opt out of parenthood or not.


There is absolutely nothing about that which insists that the parents have to raise the child.

Irrelevant, but also wrong. Do you not understand what labor is? Do you think it's as easy as just taking a shit, leaving the baby there, and walking out? I mean, I'm not even a woman here, and you're making me have to explain to you how intense child-bearing is. How some women don't even survive it. How painful it is. And you're saying no one has the right to opt out of that? All because you think a 6 week old embryo is the same thing as a "human baby" when it objectively isn't. Do you think scrambled eggs are hot wings, too? Do you think grains of sand are diamonds? I seriously don't fucking understand how so many people don't know what the process of development is. If you want to say an embryo will one day be a baby, then fine. Say that. But it isn't a baby and abortion isn't "baby murder."

And if your argument is "adoption," I'll redirect you back to your previous point:

Obviously doing more of something that does not work is fucking stupid.

Do you know how fucked the adoption system is? But that's also welfare, and you hate welfare right, so you'd be against that, too. Can't have adoption and be against welfare. So I know you're not thinking of that as an option, anyway right?

Again, I already made the other points about how no pro-life advocate on Earth gives an actual fuck about the welfare and safety of that embryo that becomes a newborn, post-birth. No one is actually "pro-life," they're just anti-abortion and don't give a flying fuck about "that precious baby" once it's out it's mom's cooch. It's just "I hate abortion! What's that? Can't raise the child after popping it out? Oh well; ain't my fucking problem! And you ain't getting a dime from me, either! Figure it out!" And then if we have actual newborn homicides and murders skyrocket because abortion is banned nationwide, people will then want to bitch about that too, as if they didn't see it coming. As if you can FORCE someone to be a loving, responsible parent...

If someone thinks that a person who would do abortion is already "evil," then why the fuck do you even want them as a parent, to begin with? How is that not the more fucked-up option? One everyone else will have to pay for too. Either literally or through the bodies of that future serial killer or rapist you forced into the world to be neglected and unloved.

And then you dumb-fucks wonder why we have thugs punching white women in New York City right now and it never clicks in your pea-sized brain that "maybe they had shitty parents, and a shitty childhood, which resulted in them being shitty people?" And you want MORE of that shit? More fatherless "niggers" as you call them, not that it's just a one-race issue. Good God, you are one DUMB motherfucker. And if you were anyone else, I wouldn't even resort to pointing this out or stooping this low. But you? You deserve to be mocked for being such a stupid shit and trying to intellectually flex online and looking even dumber in the process.


...It is a "living human being." They should be held financially liable.

Says who? Who gives a flying fuck what you think they should be held to? You think someone sparing a future child from a lifetime of abuse is worse than putting them through that abuse cause you think an embryo is an actual developed human life when "it is literally a biological fact" that it is not. You know an embryo doesn't even have brain function or a consciousness, right? If you were arguing against third-trimester abortions; you know, an actual baby, that'd be one thing. But you're arguing something that is closer to sperm, is the same thing as a baby, or as you called it, "a living human being" when it literally is not by objective medical facts, and that no one should be able to opt out of parenthood because of what you think and feel is "a human being?" I thought the woke were the only ones who did "feelings over facts?" Not that you give a fuck about anyone but yourself, anyway. You're the type of person who'd love to see more "non-whites" aborted, but then want to moral-fag online about how "abortion is wrong." But no, you're not a hypocrite at all!

You'd rather a billion more fucked-up, suicidal, angry, mentally ill people enter the world than sparing those people a lifetime of misery, abuse, and shit from a mother who didn't want them because "they should be held financially liable?" I can't even fathom how fucking idiotic that sounds and how fucked your priorities in life must be. Not that I'm surprised or anything.

This is why I don't respect the pro-life argument and how fucking DUMB it is. If it had a fucking lick of logic or intelligence to it, I could understand it better. Only time a pro-life person was able to convince me is if I gave him the choice between a woman aborting a child and that man having to immediately raise the child himself and take up parenthood of them, and he said he'd do it, 100%, no hesitation. He also actually wasn't anti-welfare, either. He, unlike most pro-life advocates, actually put his money where his mouth was and actually proved to be pro-life than just anti-abortion. If most pro-life advocates were like him, I'd not only respect their argument, but I'd probably actually join them.

I rarely ever see that with others, though. It's just them wanting to stick their hand up a woman's cooch and control their life through government force; the same shit they accuse the woke left of doing. But no; "it's only bad when they do it!"


I spent half an hour typing all this shit, and in the end, you've not said anything to convince me you're anymore intelligent than when I began. And again, I already know how you feel about black people, and a bunch of other people out there based on what you've said on here before, and if I could block you, I would. But since I said I'd argue my points here, I have. Your arguments boil down to, "I feel like my emotions are facts" and everything else is a "nuh-uh!" to deflect criticism on conservative viewpoints you damn well know others have. But I tried.

[–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Once sperm fertilizes an egg, the potential of human life is there. There already is a soul. Any sort of action removing this potential is abortion.

[–]YoMamma 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

There already is a soul.

There's no evidence of a soul in a fertilized egg. You can't prove that it has a soul. The first ideas for the location of the soul was that it resided in the heart, because one can hear a heart beat when a person is alive. For example, ancient Egyptians believed this, that the soul resided in the heart, which was evidence of life when it was beating. Ancient Greeks and Romans believed that the soul was in the center of the brain or cranium. Christians have always located the soul in the center of the cranium. Thus, a fetus can have a soul in two traditional manners: once its heart forms and starts beating, OR once it becomes aware of itself. Many in the secular and religious world see the latter - cognitive self awareness - as the first indication of LIFE of the fetus.

[–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

I can prove it. You havent understood the argument. There is potential for a human there. There is none for sperm nor egg as they are. When the embryo is formed, there is. You have a soul there. Because it can be human, hence, it has a soul.

It has potential for life, therefore, soul. It has nothing to do with conscience, perception of pain, heartbeat. The point is that if you as a spermatozoon had no point in living until you fertilized an egg. You are just a cell. But once you do, then you become life. Greeks and Egyptians made their own empires, but did not build our civilization by themselves; what was good in them was maintained. And the CATHOLIC, not modern CHRISTIAN view, that shaped your world, is that once a woman is officially pregnant, she is carrying LIFE. Period.

[–]YoMamma 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Because it can be human, hence, it has a soul. ...It has potential for life, therefore, soul.

False. You have nothing to backup your claim, no historical information, no factual evidence, and no other resource to back up your claim, and your argument about a potential to be human is illogical as well as impossible. It is impossible to prove that something with the POTENTIAL to be human has a soul. A 'potential' does not necessarily exist. It cannot be known if the 'potential' being will exist as a being. A soul can only be in an ACTUAL living body. When the body is NOT actually living, it does not have a soul. Something that has the POTENTIAL to be a human is ALSO an unfertalized egg, as well as a sperm. Those cannot actually have a soul, nor can a fertilized egg.

[–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

If potential does not exist, prove that a healthy embryo does not bring forth a human being. A soul is there, because otherwise God wouldnt bring it to our world.

[–]YoMamma 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You misunderstand what I wrote. I did not state that the potential to be human did not exist in the fertilized egg. I stated that "a 'potential' does not necessarily exist." You're conflating the possible and the actual. A soul is not in a thing that merely has the potential to be that thing. That would be impossible. A soul can ONLY be in a fetus who ACTUALLY exists. A fertilized egg is NOT alive and does NOT exist as a fetus

[–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

All fertilized eggs carry the potential to be life, and as such, have a soul. You may seem confused because I never stated it is in the same state as when you are a fetus. And yes, it is alive, if it carries a life. If it does not, then it isnt. Simple.

[–]YoMamma 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You're just repeating yourself, again. Re-read my responses. You're wrong, have no evidence, have no basis for the argument, and the assumption is obviously illogical.