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[–]fschmidt[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously no, I don't want those guilty of treason against the Constitution in my country.

Note - my previous post of this link was removed, so I posted it again with a different title.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What is the judge doing wrong that makes you want to not share a country? I see her keeping order in her courtroom and making sure the witness knows when they're supposed to speak and when to not. Seems like good judge behaviour in this video to me.

Let's just recall that Alex showed pictures on air of the judge on fire, associated her with pedofiles and lied that she's following a literal script, all three bought to the judge's attention during plaintiff questioning of Alex.

Meanwhile she's treating him with decorum and respect. I would rather boot Alex from the country than judge Gambol

[–]fschmidt[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

You must love Stalin's show trials. This is what this is. Alex Jones is not allowed to defend himself.

I would rather boot Alex from the country than judge Gambol

Here we agree. Let's split the country in two. You can live judge Gambol's half. I will live in Alex Jones's half.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Alex had the best part of five years to defend himself. During that time he cycled through about 11 lawyers, including Bobby Barnes who Infowars has said in affidavit they're planning to sue for his terrible performance. They send Rob Dew as corporate deposition representative TWICE and neither time was he aware what that meant or what he was supposed to do. They then sent Daria Karpova as corporate rep, and her preparation was printing out some Wikipedia pages. Finally they hired outside counsel Brittany Paz who hadn't read the judge's orders for her deposition and wasn't prepared to discuss what she was ordered by the court to prepare on

No, Alex Jones had more than sufficient time to prepare a defense. He showed massive disrespect to the plaintiffs and the court. After neglecting to respond to any discovery WHATSOEVER for Lafferty vs Jones (just ignore it and hope it goes away), it was just too many opportunities squandered, so they got default judgement.

I have a few questions for you.

  1. If this is a show trial and Alex's defence was suppressed by the illuminati, ANSWER ME WHY the damages+punitive+sanctions will be 10million dollars cost to infowars and not the 150m the plaintiffs were asking for?

  2. Why on earth did you select this clip of a judge keeping good order in her courtroom as proof that she should be in a different country? In your imaginary nation, are the courtrooms totally chaotic where the loudest voice wins? What about maintaining decorum ought to eject a judge from the nation?

  3. Shouldn't infowars have LOVED and jumped at the opportunity to defend their case? Given that Alex claims to have all these documents and sources, shouldn't he have relished the chance to explain his side? Why didn't they engage for five years with discovery and why send those (hilarious) morons as corporate rep, if infowars weren't a bunch of grifters?

Answer me on these three or be forever a coward

[–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You totally miss the point. I disagree with Alex Jones on most subjects and I am not interested in defending him personally. What interests me is rule of law and free speech. Now for your questions:

  1. Yes, not quite Stalin level since they still had a jury.
  2. I picked that video because the judge is so obviously an insane bitch with no respect for rule of law.
  3. All I know is about this particular case. You seem to have much more interest in Alex Jones than I do. But this case was obviously an abuse of justice.

[–]jingles 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, not quite Stalin level since they still had a jury.

i watched the case on youtube and the judge told the jury that HE IS GUILTY AND THAT ALL THEY NEEDED TO DO WAS TO FIGURE OUT HIS SETTLEMENT AMOUNT or something like that.

that is extremely improper for the judge to TELL the jury that the defendant is GUILTY.

an absolute textbook example of a KANGAROO COURT.

SHE ALSO JUST TOLD HIM THAT HE IS NOT BANKRUPT AND THAT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT HE IS BANKRUPT.

I BELIEVE THAT HE CAN SAY THAT HE IS THE EASTER BUNNY, IF THAT IS WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY...

THEN IT WOULD BE THEIR JOB TO PROVE THAT HE IS NOT THE EASTER BUNNY.

THIS IS A KANGAROO COURT.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hi Jingles.

First of all, the judge was right to instruct the jury that Alex (free speech systems LLC) was guilty.

This is because after five years of not answering production requests, and providing totally inadequate corporate depositions, Alex (fss LLC) waived their right to defend themselves. If they wanted to put up a defense, they could have done so during the five years in which they were pretending it would all just go away.

THAT ALL THEY NEEDED TO DO WAS TO FIGURE OUT HIS SETTLEMENT AMOUNT

Yup, that was what the jury was in the room for. Travis County was paying them to not attend their normal day jobs, so they could answer, how much damages + punitive Alex/fss owed. So that was a good and correct instruction to give the jury.

NOT BANKRUPT AND THAT HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT HE IS BANKRUPT

Alex is not bankrupt and was not allowed to give false testimony. It's not a rule that's only about Alex - actually nobody is allowed to give false sworn testimony. I think if you consider it for a minute, you'll see, it's a good rule.

THAT HE CAN SAY THAT HE IS THE EASTER BUNNY, IF THAT IS WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY...

Yes! He can! He can say that all day if he wants! Because that's not defamatory and nobody would have legal cause to sue. Once he starts making defamatory statements, he is liable to be hauled before a jury damages trial.

THIS IS A KANGAROO COURT.

I'll tell you what's especially degrading to the legal system - ignoring production for five years, ignoring your lawsuits, hoping it will all go away, and then lying on the stand.

If you want to complain that this trial has been bad for the legal system, it's 100% Alex to blame.

Alex had every chance to produce documents. To prepare a corporate rep for deposition. If he had, the trial would have been about liability, and the jury would have been asked whether or not he's guilty. Instead Alex chose to ignore court orders to produce, and now he faces the consequence for his actions.

[–]jingles 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i appreciate your taking the time to write that.

thank you.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But this case was obviously an abuse of justice.

But I thought you had an interest in rule of law and free speech? Wouldn't you have taken 5 minutes to understand the why the case skipped liability and moved straight to damages? Why didn't you just take a moment to reward your strong interest, and figure out how FIVE YEARS of ignoring production requests and court orders would lead to a default judgement?

I disagree with Alex Jones on most subjects and I am not interested in defending him personally.

Weird, because you strongly agree with him on these rule of law and free speech issues, two topics very close to your heart.

  1. Yes, not quite Stalin level since they still had a jury.

Oh ok so you're walking back when you called it a Stalinist show trial. This is you admitting you were wrong about that. Ok

  1. I picked that video because the judge is so obviously an insane bitch with no respect for rule of law.

Where in the video does any of that happen? The video which you selected and linked, shows a judge keeping good order and decorum in her courtroom. Is there another one you saw and forgot to share which shows her "obviously an insane bitch"? Do you think total disregard for rule of law, often inspires family court lawyers to become a judge, or are you going to agree that this needs walking back too?

  1. All I know is about this particular case. You seem to have much more interest in Alex Jones than I do. But this case was obviously an abuse of justice.

If so, Alex was behind 100% of the abuse. Alex didn't respond to his lawsuit and got defaulted. That's a good and normal part of the legal code and COMMON LAW. Obviously, with your interest in law, you have some good jurisprudence as to why it's ok to ignore a lawsuit and hope it goes away. You said you know this case was OBVIOUSLY an abuse of justice, so id like to hear you explain, why is it ok for Alex to ignore his lawsuits, but abusive for the plaintiffs to move for default? Should they have waited ten years when it was obvious he wasn't going to respond after five? Please explain.

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because those lawsuits are all forms of vexatious litigation. This is direct persecution and if you can’t see that then you are complicit in it. His constitutional rights are being violated and you are celebrating it. Stop gaslighting people.

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You do share a country with people like this, you have for decades, they are right there, holding all the legal power and you, like every one else, will bend over and take it in the ass.

Then bitch at other countries who do not have a constitution and slightly more gun control.

[–]fschmidt[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And what are you doing exactly?

As for me, I have already made plans to leave the country if things get out of hand.

[–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Too late. The continued existence of this country is a threat to the rest of the world.

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you live the US, move as far rural as you can. I live in Australia and I moved rural. There is no other country that you can just jump to that is not in this retard global boat of tard jars.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I remember when The New York Times did much worse, and were given a free pass, calling it First Amendment false speech knowingly accusing someone wrongly of a crime.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)