Why are most trans people white?

WeaselUnderground · 2020-08-04T05:40:08+00:00

It's boring, but the most likely answer? 72% of the US and 82% of the UK is white, so at lest in those two places, the fact that white people are the overwhelming majority probably explains why there are more white trans people that you're observing. Also, at least in the US, white people tend to have better health insurance and more money that can help them with therapy, transition, etc.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-08-02T03:48:35+00:00

100% with you.

And it's not just the people who aren't really trans in the sense of "identify as trans but don't have dysphoria", but these aggressive "allies" that run around lgb spaces shouting transphobia at people for really innocuous stuff online. It makes me crazy because all those people are doing, as you said, is damaging the image of trans people. Surprise! Calling people who generally support trans people terfs is a pretty good way of losing support. I have to remind myself to separate trans people from allies, "lesbians who love dick," trans rights acitivsts that take extreme positions, and the variety of other crazy shit I see on reddit and Twitter, because while I'm gender critical in the sense that I think gender is a social construct, I do also support people like Buck and Rose to live their best lives in a way that feels comfortable. It seems like most people on GC started out as allies and got pushed away and turned off, not by people like Rose, but by allies and NB people going to extremes.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-27T00:10:57+00:00

From what I remember from reading some of her work in school, she talked a lot about the idea that gender is a performance. So we "do" gender as an action rather than gender being something we "have" or "are." But she's not saying that we consciously choose to perform gender or that we can just stop the performance, instead she's saying that the performance of gender from the time we are infants actually shapes who we are and how we think as an individual. It's complicated and I don't know that I fully understand it, but I think she's saying that if you're a baby girl people treat you differently and that means you act differently and start performing gender as you get older and that performance shapes how you get treated and that in turn shapes how you act, and on and on.

This is probably the idea that TRAs dislike, since it goes against the idea that gender is inherent.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-19T22:01:57+00:00

I understand what you meant, I just don't think it's particularly helpful to point that out. Generally, the GC argument is "just because you like dolls as a boy (or insert your own stereotypical gender behavior) doesn't mean you know what it feels like to be a girl." so when we say things like what you're saying it's kinda selectively applying the reverse logic only to the cases you want. We can't have it both ways. It's the kind of comment that makes people point to GC people and say, "they're biological essentialists!"

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-19T17:24:32+00:00

I feel sorry for this person. Unlike the many cases we see where the person feels very entitled to a space and is angry that people don't want them there, this person mentioned in their post multiple times that they asked their friend if this would be an inclusive space for them and they were told yes multiple times. The post isn't saying that they should have been included so much as it is saying, "I felt humiliated and like my friend set me up for this and now I am emotionally wrecked and need to vent." I can only imagine how upsetting and humiliating this experience was for them. I think this is where the trans women/men ARE women/men rhetoric ends up hurting everyone involved, not the least of whom are the trans people who end up in a situation like this.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-19T17:21:19+00:00

This is an unfair criticism and reinforces stereotypes. Men can cry and honestly the world would be better if more men did go cry in the bathroom for half an hour when they're upset instead of fighting or getting wasted or whatever crappy coping skills society has approved for them. This person is not a "real man" (ie male) because they were born female, not because they're comfortable with crying. Conforming to stereotypical gender roles is not what makes you a real man/woman.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-15T05:56:20+00:00

Ok rereading the post again, I think he's saying gender norms were invented to help white people oppress black people. Or that they were invented as the result of homophobia and transphobia in order to help racism. Or something, but that the end result is that gender norms hurt black trans/nb people the most (more than, you know, black women). I keep reading it but it still doesn't really make coherent sense to me. Im pretty positive gender roles centering on procreation predate the large race based oppression we have today.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-15T05:14:26+00:00

From the new Queer Eye. I actually really like him on the show and I used to love how much he pushed the lines of masculinity/femininity but at some point he came out as NB and now we're here. I have no clue how reading posts like this didnt boggle my mind until recently.

WeaselUnderground · 2020-07-08T13:29:20+00:00

https://ibb.co/TLPcTtp

Apparently, trans women need to be included bc nobody can relate to women with pcos as well as trans women. Except other women with Pcos, which is literally the point of the sub. JFC.

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