JVN posts about how gender norms were invented to oppress and kill trans and NB people (no mention of women, of any race, bc it's not like we have been literally killed and hurt by gender roles in huge numbers in pretty much every country and culture for thousands of years or anything)

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[–][deleted] 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

"White people procreating is literally killing non-binary and transpeople?"

This is unhinged.

[–]Thatstealthygal 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How many of said trans and NB people are white exactly? Is it A MASSIVE MAJORITY??

[–]PlayCardsNotPeople 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, TIL. Untill now I under the misaprehension that people procreating was giving life, but I now understand it's taking it away. /s

[–]tangleofsnakes 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Every time a white baby is born, a transperson dies?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So WTF. Much confuse. 🌀

[–]WeaselUnderground[S] 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok rereading the post again, I think he's saying gender norms were invented to help white people oppress black people. Or that they were invented as the result of homophobia and transphobia in order to help racism. Or something, but that the end result is that gender norms hurt black trans/nb people the most (more than, you know, black women). I keep reading it but it still doesn't really make coherent sense to me. Im pretty positive gender roles centering on procreation predate the large race based oppression we have today.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

JVN does know how he got here, right? On the planet, I mean? His parents procreated.

This is a mess. It makes no sense, and it sounds more than a little crazy. I say that in all seriousness.

[–]MezozoicGay 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Wait wait.

Gender norms are what makes you tans in the first place, if you want to play gender role of other sex.

And gender norms are existing only to oppress (black) trans people?

How that makes any sense?

Does that mean that whole existence of trans-movement is because of oppression of society by gender stereotypes and roles? It is true, for sure, but I doubt that person meant this idea.

[–]Thatstealthygal 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are they saying non white people have never prioritised procreation before Evol Wyt Coliniza came along? That pressure to.have kids is entirely a renaissance western thing????

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, yes, clearly, because indigenous people had no idea where babies came from before then. According to TRAs.

[–]CleverNickName 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

oh my god (he says, aware of the upcoming irony), every single post everywhere talking about gender ideology bullshit reads like some religious nut quoting scripture. "transphobia", "literally killing us", "love and be loved", "you aren't doing it right", "follow [random ass people on twitter]", "be a better ally"

I'd have so much more sympathy and willingness to listen if they ever SAID anything. Instead, they just talk.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also -- don't forget -- there's teaching. "These activists have been teaching me." "I've been learning." After receiving the holy teachings, they must come convert us.

[–]GConly 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't homophobia rampant in the black community, and in Africa in general?

How the hell is that caused by white supremacists?

[–]weirdthorn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Who is jvn?

[–]WeaselUnderground[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

From the new Queer Eye. I actually really like him on the show and I used to love how much he pushed the lines of masculinity/femininity but at some point he came out as NB and now we're here. I have no clue how reading posts like this didnt boggle my mind until recently.

[–]ekb88 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Wait, this isn’t some random teenager ranting?

[–]weirdthorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the info. I think they are on Netflix.

[–]Sineadsiobhan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

JVN has gone off the deep end here.

If he bothered to look, he’d have seen many women of colour siding with Rowling (I highly recommend Jana Cornel).

Same goes with both trans women/men siding with Rowling.

I really like QE and I did enjoy his presence on the show, because it seemed like he couldn’t care less about who people thought of him. Here was this outrageously gay guy who cut hair well, I absolutely loved that he made people feel good about themselves.

Now he just sounds like an old addled conspiracy theorist who lives in his parents basement.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

^ Same. I loved his presence on the earlier QE episodes. Post-JKR-tweets, he's sounding more and more like someone who's been indoctrinated into a cult.

[–]MadLass 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Omg please please eat your own tail. Go after the white TIMs next.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The funniest thing about the TRA movement is that it's the whitest, most first world bs I've ever encountered. I literally would have no idea what this mind numbing word salad is about if gringos hadn't made this "nonbinary" shit up and forced it down everyone's throats.

[–]meranii 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When you're deep in the TRA brainrot you don't actually have to know anything about history, you can just make up a narrative that depicts you as the ultimate center and victim of anything that ever happened on earth and call it a day.

[–]3MistersAndAMissy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why isn’t anyone calling them out on their ‘Noble savage’ BS?

So, people of color didn’t know the difference between men and women until taught by the white people? They didn’t do things like marry bio women to bio men to procreate.

Their animal husbandry must have been a mess. ‘Why isn’t my cow having any babies! I brought in the trans bull and everything’