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GC: Can you explain why defining sex as the different sized gametes (egg and sperm) is not conflating sexual dimorphism with sex, because I think it is conflating? And can you tell me why sex is binary and is not a bimodal distribution? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

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Hi - Sexual dimorphism is where the two sexes appear differently (google peacock and peafowl) the showy, pretty plumage of the peacock is a great example of sexual dimorphism (the peafowl - female- is just a brown bird in comparison). in the case of the peacock, the sexual dimorphism is probably to attract the female.

Eddie Redmayne flips and flops depending on which way public opinion looks to be going. Almost as if the streak of piss went to the same school as David Cameron and Boris Johnson. by jet199 in GenderCritical

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He's made the most benign of statements too, basically "lets not send death threats to anyone", and they're coming for him on twitter, knives out. So sending death threats are good?

Good News: Brand-New Guidance from UK Government Says New Relationship & Sex Ed in Schools Must NOT Promote Gender Stereotypes & "Born in Wrong Body" Myth, Expose Kids to Inappropriate Materials (Porn), Ignore Safeguarding, Override Parents, or Favor Any One Group Over Others - Must Be Fair To All. by MarkTwainiac in GenderCritical

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Thank you UK feminists. You really showed us how to push back.

PinkNews CEO thinks a man's right to rent a womb is the same as a woman's right to IVF by alttrawl in GenderCritical

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Hes saying its a gay rights issue so Im loving all the women in the comments like "well a gay trans man can access ivf surely so it's not a gay issue"

LOS ANGELES TIMES review accuses J.K. Rowlings' new book of having "transphobic elements" - what fucking bullshit... by BEB in GenderCritical

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I never realised how many book reviewers didn't read the books

J.K. Rowling comes out winking! We should all get her t-shirt to identify fellow TERFs. by BEB in GenderCritical

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They tried to cancel her new book and its a bestseller. JKs cackling, "fuck you" response to ppl trying to shut her up is inspiring.

(Used 'cackling' purposefully because they tried to make her a witch and she's just shrugging it off)

Does GC feminism include trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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Hello!! I'm glad to see you're here too! It's like finding ppl after a shipwreck lol

Trans activists hate Rowling because she’s a woman | James Kirkup | The Times by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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She's a woman *who disobeys.

The hatred for Rowling has crossed the line from crazy to neo-fascistic. by ArthnoldManacatsaman in GenderCritical

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I'm happy for the tras to go absolutely apeshit on this. Overton window creeps back towards normalcy every time a dangerhair shrieks that jk rowling must die because she wrote 1 line in a 944 page book about a man putting on a woman's coat and a wig.

Does GC feminism include trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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Oh really! thank you for this, I had a hunch this would be reflected in other countries (by assessing the situation through a sex based, feminist lens) but had no data.

Does GC feminism include trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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There are women who want to wear a hijab, and there are women who don't want to wear a hijab and both are OK.

Of course? You need nuance. Obviously if people want to wear hijab they should be allowed. Women wearing hijab because of coercion can be assessed with a feminist lens. Modesty perception within cultures and how it affects women can also be assessed without ripping hijabs off womens heads.

However, many trans men made it clear many times that they are not transitioning to escape misogyny, or are lesbians in denial, yet GC continues to impose these narratives on trans men.

And some are transitioning to deal with misogyny or internalised homophobia and we have evidence of this from detransitioners. Like the hijab wearers of the world encompass both choice and coerced women, so too can transmen encompass both females who benefit from transition and some(not majority!) females who don't.

Nuanced discussion allows us to see both groups wuthout demonizing either.

Does GC feminism include trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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Thanks - forgive formatting

You don't have to agree with women wearing a hijab, but you can still respect their choice,

I do. That's exactly what I'm saying.

not make up your own reasons why they choose to wear the hijab, or calling them oppressive.

Respectfully Disagree. I have a friend who has been coerced by their family to wear hijab, and take it off when they are with me. I am allowed to use my critical thinking to interrogate this situation through a feminist lens.

Sure thing its the THE 2018 AUSTRALIAN TRANS AND GENDER DIVERSE SEXUAL HEALTH SURVEY REPORT OF FINDINGS.

Excluding those who did not answer these questions, survey participants reported rates of sexual violence or coercion nearly four times higher than found in the general Australian public [19]. Sexual violence and coercion were much more common among participants who had been assigned female at birth – trans men and non- binary people – compared with those assigned male (61.8% vs 39.3%, p<0.001). Non-binary participants who had been assigned female at birth were most likely to report sexual violence (66.1%) followed by trans men (54.2%) and non- binary people assigned male at birth (44.5%). Whilst trans women least commonly reported sexual violence (36.1%), this remains almost twice that of the general public [19].

Piers Clashes With Trans Supporter Over JK Rowling's Controversial New Book | Good Morning Britain by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Well i probably agree with him on other basic facts too lmao sky is blue, trains should run on time. It's indicative of how little ppl agree with woke twitter really

Does GC feminism include trans men? by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

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I dunno how to quote yet so I'll just say:

Supporting someone doesnt mean you have to believe what they believe. I support the rights of women who wear hijab in australia, even though personally I don't believe in this practice.

E.g. Transmen need our support, trans men (along with non binary females) in australia are more likely to experience sexual assault than transwomen (or non binary males). If twaw and tmam this makes no sense (not reflective of men and women rates of sexual assault) however, radical feminism offers a sex based explanation for this.

JK Rowling’s latest book is about a murderous cis man who dresses as a woman to kill his victims; gets criticised on social media by [deleted] in books

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Its even more insane that this shitfit was thrown over a paragraph in a 944pg book

'The Mandalorian' fans want Gina Carano fired for "mocking trans people" by Dabitch in GenderCritical

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Imagine being so entitled that you think you can shame-force an actor to put words in the bio of their social media. She owes them NOTHING

J.K. Rowling's new book Troubled Blood has caused quite the controversy by socialistrobot in GenderCritical

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JK just throwing oil into the fire!

Reddit is peaking by Sunflowerdevyl in GenderCritical

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They already know taking benign billboards down for "hate speech" is not the best play, (we saw the outrage years ago from posies 'woman' billboards) yet they keep falling for it.

Both: What do you hate about your natal sex/gender? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

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I loathe that people try to put gender expectations on me at all.

I personally don't think I was assigned a gender, I think society has tried (gender expectations/socialisation) but as I understand gender is made up stereotypes it's less effective?

But things I loathe about gender roles for females is definitely the expectation I will clean stuff up. Hate that

Who's gonna tell 'em erasing our spaces doesn't erase us? by iejrv9oiwvij3wrvo9 in GenderCritical

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I only joined reddit for the conversation lol im happy to move tables and carry on!

It's so funny to me that Reddit is claiming TERFs were brigading different women's subs (like r/PCOS and r/pregnancy) like there weren't radfems in those subs to begin with by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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Most women would be terfs to them because most women know sex differences exist

Detrans female— Is there space for me here? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Yes you are welcome! I think there is a detrans group here in australia (might not be helpful) On Twitter detrans ppl display themselves with a little lizard emoji, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to cite ppls twitter handles here.

Reddit used to have a 'detrans' sub filled with ppl - i am unsure if they survived the culling or if they migrated here?