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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Oh good lord, you must know that you're grasping at straws with this birth defect crap right?

Again, intersex people may possess characteristics of both male and female sexes. In which case they are "between sex".

Web MD makes that clear:https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-intersex

What source are you using that says it's not between sex, and it a birth defect?

Or did you make it up yourself?

How about this, what about the vast majority of "trans people" that don't suffer from any kind of intersex condition at all

You're moving your position from "There are no people for who some of their body is male" to "The vast majority of trans people don't suffer from any kind of intersex condition"?

That's possibly an improvement. "The vast majority don't" is much closer than "This doesn't happen".

what's the supposed biological justification for them pretending to change sex categories?

The medical justification is that it improves quality of life, mental health, and suicidal ideation.

The biological basis is still under investigation, but the research has some candidates worthy of pursing in research.

Some examples:

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

LGBTQQIP2SAA shit is heavily politicized, nobody really thinks that intersex conditions are anything other than birth defects, regardless of what the diversity hire at WebMd.com wrote. There's no basis for selective pressure in these individuals, they're just one-off blips, genetic dead-ends, mistakes, and yes, a lot of these intersex infants would die shortly after birth without medical intervention. Intersex people are still either one sex or the other, the only thing even close to someone with random male and female "parts" are chimeras, and those are even rarer than intersex and really just illustrates how our two forms are different. "Trans" people aren't chimeras.

There's no biological basis to find, these people are gay, autistic, gender non-conforming, fashion victims, or fetishists. Maybe they're happier pretending they're the opposite sex but that doesn't make them the opposite sex, and it doesn't entitle them to the history, rights, spaces, categories or terms associated with each of the two genders. Wanting to be the opposite sex doesn't make it so, and if that fact makes you want to kill yourself you certainly need help, but that help being "ok we'll all pretend your delusion is true" is insanity and not a real solution. We don't give anorexics liposuction!

This will all end, all of this stupid shit you're advocating for will end in the next couple years and then you'll pretend you couldn't have known things were as fucked up as they currently are. This is a medical malpractice. There are no "trans" people.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

doesn't entitle them to the history, rights, spaces, categories or terms associated with each of the two genders

Oh you think one of them should get special treatment?

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, women require certain concessions to participate in society on an equal footing with men.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So you're a radfem too. Everyone but me hates men, even men.

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not at all, I'm a realist. A woman's biology puts her at a disadvantage to men in many ways, pregnancy being an obvious one. If concessions weren't made to allow women maternity leave they couldn't participate in the workplace on an equal footing.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A woman doesn't have to get pregnant. And since maternity leave involved a born child, why isn't paternity leave necessary?

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Women do need to get pregnant in a functioning society, otherwise there would be no more society. Men don't carry a child, but paternity leave is a thing as well if the mother would like to go back to work after giving birth.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So you think women should be forcibly impregnated?

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that's totally what I said. 🙄