Without Christian immigrants, Israel will not survive

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Promised Land? It's a desert wasteland dude. I'd pick somewhere nicer personally

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Haha, stupid christcucks

    [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Why do you think you get to decide what is and isn't Christian when you're not even one? In fact you're violently anti-Christian.

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      [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      There might be another angle I'm missing, but if not then Isaiah 60:12 is clearly a Jewish interpolation. In fact it is agreed that Isaiah himself only wrote the first 39 chapters of the book, and this is chapter 60.

      [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

      Galatians 3:29 is an interpolation, and that's not what Abraham's seed inherits for this writer.

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        [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

        You can't expect to understand these works while understanding neither first-century Christian thought nor ancient literature.

        This guy does not think they are literally Abraham's fleshly descendants, that would be absurd. But they are his successors in the faith, and therefore its heirs. All the authors of Paul's letters I can think of also agree that "Israel" is the kingdom that's "not of this world", or the body of believers. The "true" Israel, consisting not only of Jews but also of gentiles.

        Ancient thought was often expressed with allegories, unlike today; if you don't know this you'll only come up with the most bizarre understandings.

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          [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

          Luke 17:20-21

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            [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

            You're reading "old covenant" and "new covenant" into it from modern theology. It's actually slave covenant vs free covenant.

            Galatians 4:21-31:

            21 Tell me, those who want to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22 Because it is written that Abraham had two sons, one from the slave woman and one fom the free woman. 23 But the one from the slave woman has been born according to the flesh, but the one from the free woman through promise. 24 These things are an allegory; they are two contracts: one from Mount Sinai giving birth into slavery — 26 the other giving birth far above all rule and authority and power and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come; and she is our mother. 31 Henceforth brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

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              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

              You're still confused about what they're inheriting. There have always been two contracts.

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                [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                Btw, this is how Galatians 3:10-4:7 originally read (roughly):

                11b Learn that "The good person will live by faith." 10 Because all who are under the law are under a curse, as it is written that "Cursed is everyone who doesn't keep doing all the things written in the book of the law," 11a because with the law no one is good [according to God]. 12 And the law is not from faith, rather "The one who does these things will live in them." 13 The Messiah bought us back from the curse of the law having become a curse for us (because it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14b so that we might get the blessing of the spirit through faith. 26 Because you are all sons of faith; 27 because any of you who were immersed into the Messiah have worn the Messiah. 28 There is not Jew nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female; because you are all of the Messiah.

                15 I talk like a human. 4:3 When we were young, we were enslaved under the elements of world. 4a But when the fullness of the time came, God sent his son 5 so that he might buy back those under the law, so that we could receive adoption. 6 And because you are sons, he sent out his spirit into our hearts crying out "Abba, Father". 7 So you are not a slave anymore, but a son; and if a son, also an heir through God.

                No verse 29.

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                  [–]Diana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                  the comments here.... wow. I dunno why I expected smarter users than on Reddit

                  religion is about as important as Harry Potter lore

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                    [–]Diana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    Not an atheist, just don't believe in literally the biggest con wreaked on humanity but yes, I'm dumb

                    Remember to say a few hail mary's to absolve yourself for letting your pastor gobble your johnson

                    cheers

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                      [–]Diana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      Maybe Gaia will give me the pleasure of putting your head in a burning pyramid one day.

                      What kind of a person worships a god/deity who, according to your belief, encourages this kind of behavior?

                      you're no better than any Abrahamic fanatic