This intelligence report from 2004 predicted everything we went through: The wealthy elites in Davos, identity politics, ISIS, the rise of China, multipolarity, AI, weaponized pandemics, etc...

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[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Wow it's almost like your stupid conspiracy theories are built out of true parts of reality

It's almost like davos and the idea of a caliphate have existed for a while

It's almost like people have been taking about the rise of China since nixon

Wow

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Here's the "davos" thought experiment starting page 40 of the document

Hey dipshit op u/EternalSunset

If you're going to pretend this document is predictive then you need to explain why so much of it is wrong? And totally doesn't match reality? Why does this function more as a thought experiment (exactly what it professes to be) than a conspiracy theory prediction?

  • China is exporting food thanks to biotech breakthroughs

  • Chinese companies run some Asian countries like the east india company

  • Businesses have taken over the traditional government role of immunising against tb and providing malaria and hiv care

  • some middle east societies opened up and became market liberal economies

  • Shanghai cooperation council functioning as an EU

Can you explain why this document which you're insist is predictive is so horrendously wrong in its predictions?

Wow it's almost like this document is exactly the thought experiment which it claims to be and not a predictive conspiracy

[–]EternalSunset[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Knew this would summon the glowie shill.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that all you have to say?

Can you explain why the "predictions" are so wrong?

Can you explain why this document works so much better as a thought experiment than as a prediction?

You're just super obviously incorrect about this, so I am waiting for you to realise and explain yourself

[–]EternalSunset[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you misinterpret a lot of shit and ignore everything it foresaw, such as major developing economies coming together in cooperation (they specifically name China, Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa and Indonesia), the advances in biotech creating risks in terms of bioengineered weapons (like the stuff in the Wuhan lab or the weaponized biolabs that the russians found in Ukraine), the demographic transition becoming a liability for Japan, China, Russia, etc... declining US unipolarity, major effects of AI on the tech sector, the internet being an engine that powers social movements like the arab spring, increased islamic terrorism and a scenario where a califate seeks to create a extremist pan-islamic state (where have I seem this before...?), the rise of identity politics, etc, etc... Then, yeah, sure, they didn't get anything right.

I particularly lol'ed at the part where they talk about a 'nightmare' scenario where they imagine Klaus Shwab sending a letter to the FED chairman lamenting that the WEF was being forced to offer a more balanced participation to asian nations, then I remember how the last conference of the WEF ended with the moderator talking about how certain nations (a.k.a the US) had to stop trying to obstruct globalization just to spite China xD

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

  1. The BRICS concept was three years old at this point. That's not a prediction

  2. The concept of biological warfare was almost one hundred years old at this point. That's not a prediction

  3. The "lost decade" in Japan and "one child policy" are decade/s old at this point. That's not a prediction

  4. Home internet is almost a decade old at this point. That's not a prediction

  5. Islamic terrorism from al Qaida is a decade old at this point (Somalia 1993). That's not a prediction

  6. The caliphate is almost 1500 years old at this point. Not a prediction

Literally everything you claim is predictive is just a thought experiment based off of 2003's trends.

You're not very good at this. Wouldn't the document need to actually be predictive, for you to be correct? How do you account for virtually all of the authors' own predictions being wrong? They correctly captured some of the trends of 2003 but were wrong about where the trends were leading

[–]EternalSunset[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

  • But some academic used that acronym on some obscure publication about macroeconomics once before they became an institution.

It was founded in 2009.

  • But muh shitting on the water supply of the enemy.

You're not stupid enough to not know that they weren't talking about just throwing horse corpses at your enemy with a catapult. Stop that.

  • But anyone could tell that one-child policy was going to lead to this bro

Everyone was foreseeing Japan becoming the dominant world economy in the early nineties even though their demographic data was always publicly available. Seems like there is a bit more sophistication than that to making future predictions than what some biased people would try to make it seem from hindsight.

  • But muh macintosh.

Name one time that mass protests were organized on the internet before 2004.

  • But mate anyone could have predicted ISIS, also Al-Qaeda only became a terrorist organization when they started suicide bombing non-soviets, when they were terrorizing with blessed CIA approval they were good.

Not even going to dignify this with an answer.

  • But everyone could have foreseen a radical terrorist organization that the US armed and funded trying to redo the conquests by the Caliphs from over a thousand years ago

Bruh

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was founded in 2009.

"Building Better Global Economic BRICs" was published in 2001.

It's neither obscure nor academia, so I don't think you're talking about this.

The notion that China would have a big economy...wasn't invented by the op paper. You were wrong to claim they predicted this

You're not stupid enough to not know that they weren't talking about just throwing horse corpses at your enemy with a catapult. Stop that.

What? Could you try to take the retardedness out of this statement and rephrase? Here's what your OP paper says

Over the next 10 to 20 years there is a risk that advances in biotechnology will augment not only defensive measures but also offensive biological warfare (BW) agent development and allow the creation of advanced biological agents designed to target specific systems—human, animal, or crops

It's literally not inventing bio warfare, it's not predicting Wuhan, it's not predicting a lab leak. You were wrong to say it did

Seems like there is a bit more sophistication than that to making future predictions than what some biased people would try to make it seem from hindsight.

Sorry are you seriously trying to tell us that this 2003 paper were the first to realise the one child policy would lead to demographic skew? You're telling us that this was the very first time anyone realised that? If so then you are wrong

Name one time that mass protests were organized on the internet before 2004.

See this is part of the problem: you are seriously ignorant, and you fill the blind spots with imagination.

One million people attended this protest

https://web.archive.org/web/20030216110305/http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=725

You literally don't know what you're talking about

They didn't predict this.

Not even going to dignify this with an answer

Al Qaeda first attacked American interests in the 1990s, 9/11 was 2001, but you think in 2003 this paper originated the idea of Islamist terrorism?

And when challenged you think the question is undignified? Are you fucking stupid or something

Bruh

The actual real caliphate existed from 600AD to 1925.

Its literally not a prediction to say that, someone might pretend to be the calipate again in the future.

The problem we're having here is because you're an ignorant moron who fills in the blind spots with literally imaginary scenarios which you have convinced yourself are true.

Now explain this

How were these people, who you believe were aware of a plan to do all these things, nonetheless totally incorrect in their predictions? Just in the Davos section, here are some wrong predictions. How can you claim they're aware of a plan, when their predictions are so wrong?

China is exporting food thanks to biotech breakthroughs

Chinese companies run some Asian countries like the east india company

Businesses have taken over the traditional government role of immunising against tb and providing malaria and hiv care

some middle east societies opened up and became market liberal economies

Shanghai cooperation council functioning as an EU

Can you explain?

[–]dicknipplessneako's agent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Excellent points - my first thought when reading this is that it's more of a report of existing trends in 2004.