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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Here is part of the backstory.

I doubt M7 has had vaccines, and he notes he possibly had the virus 2 other times. So perhaps there is a periodic development of antibodies in this case. Not that those antibodies last for longer than 3-6 months, but icreased immunity does appear to be one of the reasons for gradual decreases in cases, thanks to vaccines and in some cases, thanks to people building immunity after getting certain strains of COVID.

I might add that I think M7 is also listening to Rand Paul's approaches. I worry about this because he's of course misleading and quite dangerous. One can also get those updates on his website and donate at the same moment to him. He's literally profiting from his misinformation. In any event, I hope this adds to the discussion.

M7: GREAT news that you are feeling better. Best wishes.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

Dr Socks has called Dr Paul a misinformation agent. I wonder who has more medical training?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Which is why we know he's well aware that he's tricking his followers. At least I link to medical science research. Also, look at the BigCorp and special interest groups that are VERY happy with his attempts to spread COVID19: https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/rand-paul/contributors?cid=N00030836&cycle=CAREER

Those are the folks making billions during the pandemic and they don't want it to end.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Where is Paul's misinfo? I remember us talking about how Rand was openly pro-vax. Or was that one of your co-workers?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Hahhaaha do you really think that cloth masks and N95 masks are equally effective? Fauci is now saying the same thing that Rand did in August.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/coronavirus/dr-fauci-says-to-wear-the-highest-quality-mask-that-you-can-tolerate-as-omicron-spreads

This is a weak argument, why are you shilling for Fauci?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You know that there is much more to Paul's early messages about masks than the difference between cloth and N95. He and we aren't that dense. Most of us got by with basic cloth masks until recently (omicron) because research indicated that masks of most kinds reduced transmission significantly. The omicron strains are of course much more transmissible, which has us now focused on N95 (niosh) and KN95 masks which are required on flights. (Still, this is the ONLY domestic flight requirement in the US, but that's a different discussion.) Paul knows well that his approaches to masks have been aimed at anti-mask voters who want to use that excuse for not wearing masks - and want to tell others that they won't wear them because Paul told them they're not effective. It's not like they've read Paul's statements as pro-N95, and he's well aware of it. He's speaking to them, specifically.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The science has always been clear that cloth masks (cotton, single layer) stop 3% of airborne viruses only.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not going to look for the old articles at the moment, but I recall that the efficacy of cloth masks was understood to be significant - as much as 80%, depending on distance. The efficacy fo cloth masks against omicron transmission is a more recent concern.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's over bro. The vaccines never worked and now hundreds of thousands have permanent injuries and early death. I hold you personally responsible for shilling for these unethical causes.