According to scientists we are currently in an ice age.

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[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We don't live in a time frame of tens of millions of years,

The claim that "it is changing too fast" is a completely unscientific claim. This is propaganda unsupported by facts. It is fear mongering, doomsday bullshit.

Every prediction made by climate scientists has greatly over estimated warming. There is a vary strong pattern in climate scientists being wrong, and always with the same agenda. How many times do you have to be lied to before you learn to be skeptical?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The claim that "it is changing too fast" is a completely unscientific claim.

No it is not. We can and do study this scientifically. Global warming deniers just use the term "unscientific" to dismiss facts they don't want to hear, just as vaxxists call inconvenient facts about their ineffective Covid vaccines "fake news".

We can already see that warming climate is leading to more conflict in drought-prone places. Dafur and Syria are good examples of wars that were triggered by changing climate.

Every prediction made by climate scientists has greatly over estimated warming.

While I acknowledge that some predictions have been too high, and some have been too low, it is just nonsense to say that "every" prediction has been "greatly" exaggerated.

Over 20 years, the predictions have been moderately accurate (0.4° rather than 0.55°); over 40 years the prediction was almost exactly right.

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No it is not.

It is, as proven by the fact that every prediction has been wrong.

to dismiss facts they don't want to hear,

You are dismissing facts you don't want to hear. How many times have you said "the science has changed" to deny that you were lied to?

Dafur and Syria are good examples of wars that were triggered by changing climate.

Absolute bullshit. Syria, as most wars, was instigated by the CIA to push a globalist agenda. That is why the US was funding the terrorists.

While I acknowledge that some predictions have been too high, and some have been too low,

Wrong. It is absolutely not "a little bit this way and a little bit that way". All predictions that made concrete, testable claims were wrong. But obviously the bullshitters aren't going to simply let that fact stand so the put out more bullshit to cover that up. They claim that vague bullshit they said like "it will get warmer" is an accurate prediction and tally that against everything that is proven wrong.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How many times have you said "the science has changed" to deny that you were lied to?

Never. At least in the broad details, the science behind the greenhouse effect has been well understood for well over a century, a lot longer than I've been alive.

Of course my knowledge has changed, and the fine details of what is understood about climate has changed a lot, and there is still a lot we don't know. There are many cycles in climate, short term, medium term, long term, and very long term (measured in hundreds of thousands or millions of years) and the result is a complex system where fine detailed predictions are next to impossible.

But the broad picture is clear: global climate is already appreciably warmer now that it was when I was a boy, and we can already see the consequences. Glaciers are shrinking; Siberia is becoming more hospitable; more extreme bushfires in Australia, California, South Africa, Brazil; significantly warmer nights; lowered oxygen levels in the oceans; milder winters in general, but more extremes cold periods in places where the air flows from the Arctic or Antarctic have shifted.

Much to my relief, while Australia as a whole has gotten warmer, the city where I live is (at least so far) seeing fewer extreme summer heat waves. Not so much the rest of the country.

Syria, as most wars, was instigated by the CIA to push a globalist agenda. That is why the US was funding the terrorists.

The Syrian civil war started as actual grass-roots protests by farmers who lost their farms, livelihoods and incomes and were protesting against the lack of assistance from the Assad government. Assad used a heavy-handed violent reaction to oppress the protests, which lead to more protests (people with nothing to lose are more likely to fight back), which lead to the US funding (initially) pro-democracy groups but then rapidly shifting to funding pretty much any group of fundamentalist Islamic nutjobs so long as they would fight the Assad government and Russians, including people every bit as bad as ISIS.