Can I rant about sex work for a moment? (self-repost)

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[–]flugegeheimen 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I hate seeing all these videos about feminists trying to normalize sex work and prostitution, claiming that it empowers women and promotes equality, when it absolutely does not.

May be you should switch to videos about feminists screeching about objectification, exactly the rhetoric you are peddling here minus your two last paragraphs.

Ever wonder why the majority of sex workers are female?

Because it's more difficult for men to get paid for sex? For example male porn actors don't ever hope to get close to the same profit their female colleagues raking in.

Sex work devalues women. It degrades women. When we are treated like a commodity

Sorry to burst your bubble but you are just a human resource at every single job. No one really gives a shit about your self-entitled excuse of personality.

As a result of young women doing this, and some young men pressuring them to do it, ALL women are overall valued less.

LMAO, so this is really it. You just couldn't not give yourself away. All this "blahblahblah degrading blahblah objectification" is just a thin cover for a real reason you are whining about sex work and porn: increased supply of sex (in any form) decreases demand for you. You just can't trade access for your vagina as well as your granmas could in more puritanical times.

Let's go into the mind of a man who purchases this contact from sites like OnlyFans.

Let's not, your post is terrible as is without you pretending to be a telepath in a pathetic attempt to support your illogical argument.

Now, younger men may value women less and not see the value of marriage and a family when he can easily buy women for sex online.

I will throw an incredibly bold and fresh idea here: may be these women should provide something more valuable than the sole fact of having a hole between their legs.

[–]madnessinamerica[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

May be you should switch to videos about feminists screeching about objectification, exactly the rhetoric you are peddling here minus your two last paragraphs.

Treating yourself like an object to be used is objectification, which is what sex workers are doing. I don't consider myself a feminist; I was pointing out the hypocrisy of feminists screeching about objectification while objectifying themselves.

Because it's more difficult for men to get paid for sex? For example male porn actors don't ever hope to get close to the same profit their female colleagues raking in.

And why is that? Why do you think men have a harder time getting paid for sex than women?

Sorry to burst your bubble but you are just a human resource at every single job. No one really gives a shit about your self-entitled excuse of personality.

This is fair. But instead of the resource stemming from a person's skill set, knowledge, or talent, the resource stems from the person's body itself. I think there is a difference, but you're welcome to disagree. I'm not talking exactly about personality.

LMAO, so this is really it. You just couldn't not give yourself away. All this "blahblahblah degrading blahblah objectification" is just a thin cover for a real reason you are whining about sex work and porn: increased supply of sex (in any form) decreases demand for you. You just can't trade access for your vagina as well as your granmas could in more puritanical times.

I didn't mean that the issue is that it decreases the demand of sex for me or other women. I meant that it decreases how much society and potential partners value women as a whole. It ruins the ability to form meaningful relationships and shifts society's view of women entirely. When a mainstream of women start objectifying themselves, all women eventually become seen as objects to be used in society. You're welcome to disagree with this, but lately, men (and women) have been coming out and writing about how much porn has destroyed their views of women and has ruined their mental health and relationships with others in real life.

Let's not, your post is terrible as is without you pretending to be a telepath in a pathetic attempt to support your illogical argument.

It was just a thought experiment. You are welcome to disagree.

I will throw an incredibly bold and fresh idea here: may be these women should provide something more valuable than the sole fact of having a hole between their legs.

THIS LINE MADE ME LAUGH because this is EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. We agree with this right here. I am literally saying that women should provide something more valuable than the hole between their legs! WOW, WE AGREE! Good talk.

[–]flugegeheimen 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of feminists while objectifying themselves.

These are two different sets of feminists and screeching about objectification is a hypocrisy itself. "Grrl power! You can choose what you want! No no not like that!! You are not allowed to participate in sex work!"

Why do you think men have a harder time getting paid for sex than women?

Because it's incomparably easy(-ier) for women to get sex for free?

I think there is a difference

It's a difference between skilled and unskilled labor and sex work is just one of many unskilled jobs, isn't special in this respect. You don't need any skill set, knowledge, or talent to flip burgers either.

I didn't mean that the issue is that it decreases the demand of sex for me or other women. I meant that it decreases how much society and potential partners value women as a whole. It ruins the ability to form meaningful relationships and shifts society's view of women entirely.

We agree with this right here. I am literally saying that women should provide something more valuable than the hole between their legs!

I'm not sure how else to put it. Sex workers do not affect how much the society values women, just like sewer cleaners don't affect how much the society values men. Sex workers only affect women who don't have anything sex workers don't provide (access to genitals) by being better competitors. There is also nothing wrong with unskilled labor (like sex work), millions of people don't have skills or talent to any lucrative activity, yet they have to earn something.

You're welcome to disagree with this, but lately, men (and women) have been coming out and writing about how much porn has destroyed their views of women and has ruined their mental health and relationships with others in real life.

If porn allowing people to become clear-headed and break from their hormone-intoxicated state destroyed their relationships then maybe these relationships weren't "meaningful" and healthy in the first place.