Microsoft wants to move Windows fully to the cloud

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[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I don't see any features that other authentication providers do not offer.

The reason Linux is superior is because I can support Linux without having to call anyone, without having to pay for a "support contract". That's a feature Windows will never be able to offer, because it doesn't ship with source code or relevant tooling.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Linux does not have OS level SSO with AD integration, and just having LDAP requires 3rd party tools. As for support, any Enterprise linux has paid for support, just like Windows. Just like windows, you can google your issues and even post community. In this respect they are completely the same, with the exception that most linux options are open source and you can fix issues in the code yourself, which for 99.99999% of home users will be mute, and probably 95% of businesses.

There is no SUPERIOR OS, there is just ones that are better at some things and worse at others. Pick the right OS for the right job.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think OS level SSO doesn't really mean anything or you really bad at explaining it.

some_information_from_account = <something here>;print(some_information_from_account)

is a valid Python program in C:\foo.py

Now, let's say the same program also exists on Linux in /usr/bin/foo.py.

How do you imagine <something here> would look like on Windows vs e.g. using Okta on Linux? Ultimately, they will have a similar flow and the application regardless of platform needs to be designed to work with SSO standards, which almost no open-source programs are.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think you are missing the 3rd party portion I said. You are, of course, correct that SSO exists for Linux, but it is hardly at a OS level and available to inject auth to anything that allows passthrough without SAML. Yes, that gap is shortening, but I am sorry Linux just is NOT an enterprise application yet for daily usage. It is a superior server in many ways, but it's desktop environment from both usage and remote/automated management is just years behind. And don't fool yourself, it is enough behind that anyone wanting to use linux apps use MacOS instead and sideload those apps there. And don't forget, Apple gave up trying to make their OS enterprise too when they killed their server.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Automated management on Linux is about 20 years ahead of Windows, which is why the heart of every tech company is Linux. Perhaps the HR-droids use Windows or Mac, but anyone doing anything important runs Linux.

I still have no idea what you mean by "at a OS level".

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Probably because you only use linux... rofl. Also pretty sure you do not know what automated management is either it seems.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know how to manage a billion machines, if I had them.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well congrats! I handle around half of that currently.