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[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Great, tell me those tons of reasons. I can imagine the surveillance tech is somewhat better developed, but I can't think of any feature that one wouldn't be able to implement on Linux and even then end point security is not really the way security is going anyway.

If those hardware backdoors exist, then why does the NSA need to intercept routers in the mail to modify them? If you say it's just in the CPU, then why not just run an FPGA with a softcore? If you are saying the government has super technology capable of recognizing a custom instruction set on such an FPGA, then you don't understand the fundamental limitations of technology.

Even ignoring all that, one could certainly build a router that terminates when a single packet is received that is unexpected.

Now, I do think that access to some random Windows system is probably quite easy, but getting access remotely just doesn't seem to be possible (hardware vendors such as Intel also claim there are no designed backdoors, btw, which means that they could be sued if it turned out to be otherwise). (Having said that, the design of any high performance chip is insecure since SPECTRE). Take the attack on Iran, which required a USB-key to get access to some maintenance laptop, not Internet.

All the old chips that have been reverse-engineered do not contain a government backdoor.

Imaging technologies are so good these days that it should be possible to X-ray every transistor, especially on larger nodes and produce a secure device. I'd expect that Intel, AMD, Apple devices are all compromised in some way, but I just don't see some mass produced microcontroller to have such backdoors, similarly for risc-v devices produced in e.g. China.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I gave reasons already in this thread, just from a different reply. No, you are wrong about how FBI/NSA works. That's all I can say.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So, you are saying that the FBI/NSA simply tells a chip company that if they want to continue to produce chips they need to add a backdoor or otherwise they don't get to do business/receive a missile on their heads?

You didn't account for companies outside of the US, but perhaps you are claiming that the supply chain then will be cut. I am pretty sure that China can produce simple chips without Western technology, so how does that work?

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Again, I am not allowed to say shit on it, so stop asking, but I will say you are wrong, and I promise you they can get into any device we have in the states, and that includes your home routers and IoT.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So, are you saying the hardware is compromised or is it just using physics to get in (I'd imagine that to be the case, because it's a method which doesn't require cooperation from a vendor)? I think it would theoretically be possible to read the RAM from any device from space, although a shielded device would make it require technology like antennas in space costing trillions of dollars. I would expect that such large devices or swarms (like StarLink) would have been picked up by others by now. StarLink would be an ideal place to hide such antennas in plain sight.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's say a little of both.