"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the law abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but in the conduct of the guilty and the lawless." - Lysander Spooner

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[–]Oyveygoyim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

What is good about open borders?

[–]bucetao6969 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Oh I don't mean "come here everyone!" borders. I mean just opening your borders for people to live here. You will need the background checks obviously.

Valid reasons for open borders are if your country is already multicultured (like brazil) so bringing in more people adds in to the already existing culture. It's also good if you want specific people from other countries (poaching their skills) or if your people have a problem creating babies (so you either import young people or couples who are willing to have babies).

[–]William_World 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I like open borders in a perfect world because I like to go to other countries for vacations and travel and I'd like it to be easy for me to do so, we don't live in a perfect world though.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I more or less said we can't have gun control or open borders though, leftists saying we need both when in reality it's one or the other

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think even if we do close the border we can't have gun control because we still have tons of low IQ criminals here that we need to be able to defend ourselves against. It's neither.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What aspect of multiculturalism requires us to be armed?

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Racial tension / friction

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1) Doesn't racial tension reduce in multicultural societies, as people become more familiar with other points of view, cultures and languages?

2) How does a gun help racial tension?

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) Doesn't racial tension reduce in multicultural societies, as people become more familiar with other points of view, cultures and languages?

Not if you force it unless of it coming organically.

2) How does a gun help racial tension?

It's not like that. It just stops people from killing each other since no one will fuck around since everyone is armed.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We should adopt Poland's policy on migrants and border policy.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Greater GDP through greater productivity.

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's a lie told by the same people who say that "diversity is a strength".

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Plausible estimate is that global GDP would double with free movement of labor.

https://www.economist.com/the-world-if/2017/07/13/a-world-of-free-movement-would-be-78-trillion-richer

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/08/06/open-borders-economy-workers

What's your best evidence that that's a lie?

[–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The fact that you're quoting the economist which is a rothschilds controlled company is my evidence it's a lie.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you think a 21% share is control, your maths is as good as your economics.

Also, I gave you another link, as well, in case you don't have a subscription to The Economist.

Your premise is also wrong. The Economist is the best journalism I'm aware of. They're not partisan barring being evidence based.