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It's All Politics
Elections Are Like A Toy Steering Wheel For Babies: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix
submitted 10 months ago by [deleted] from caitlinjohnstone.substack.com
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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun - 10 months ago* (5 children)
Fuck this fake democracy that is actually an oligarchy in disguise. She is decrying the lack of democraticness in our democracy sir, not the concept of democracy, I think you misinterpreted her stance. Caitlin is an outspoken proponent of direct democracy. I don't expect you to agree with her, shes a bit radical, but lets try to be fair in our criticisms
[–]bootylicious 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 10 months ago (4 children)
the lack of democraticness in our democracy
Yes - it sucks. We can agree it sucks. We can march in the streets and complain about it. Happy to do so.
What I think most readers are seeing here is an anti-democracy message, in general.
Here's the rub: since the start of democracies in ancient Greece there have been ways of criticizing approaches to all of them. They all have had problems. Not everyone is fairly represented in most democracies, historically.
Her article fits a series of anti-democracy complaints, especially from those who want voters to avoid voting or to throw their votes away on RFK Jr. or similar.
Her article would be much more appreciated if it noted something useful, something she recommends for the voter, something that will work in the US for most voters. I have a few ideas, but you've likely read them.
We would want solutions to the problems in the very limited democracy in the US government: "a federal republic and a representative democracy with three separate branches of government. It has a bicameral national legislature composed of the House of Representatives, a lower house; and the Senate, an upper house based on equal representation for each state."
I think we have to work with what we have.
[–]MaiqTheTrue 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 10 months ago (3 children)
Reality is giving that anti-democracy message, loud and clear. Democracy isn’t about your freedom, it’s a long con. They take everything you have by letting you think you matter. It’s them giving you their confidence (the vote) so you won’t question the reason they’re letting you vote. It’s not because they care about you, it’s because they want to hang the poll results in front of the plebiscite so that they can point it as the reason you should accept the decision.
We took a poll of all of our people and it turns out you want us to run your life, promote LGBT in schools, and tax the shit out of you. So you accept that, after all you voted, and everyone else did, and we all agreed. No protests. No refusing to comply.
https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/05/dove.html
[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 10 months ago (2 children)
Certainly - if you don't vote, or if you don't vote for the best electable candidates. You've not mentioned an alternative to this. There isn't one.
[–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 10 months ago (1 child)
Chomsky:
The smart way (the Ruling Class) keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum....
Direct Change What We Have - Shift Your Own Mind, Habit, Focus, Time, Money Let's Vote: For the Best Paradigm and Systems - that serve, rather than usurp, us
--- You Are The Company You Keep
[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 10 months ago (0 children)
yep
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