The GOP Is Making It Harder for College Students to Vote

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    [–]MuskyIndependent 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (55 children)

    Getting more students to vote is good for democracy.

    Uninformed voters are good for your party you mean.

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      [–]Zapped 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      Teenagers and those in their early 20's are soaking in so much new information and are eager to learn new things, but they are also the most easily manipulated by the politicians into voting a certain way. I know. I was one of them once.

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        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Research that assumes voting Democrat is good and voting anything else is bad.

        [–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        "research" indicates many things, your failure to provide a meaningful source renders your claim as worthless as "experts familiar with..."

        [–]passionflounderIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Look, everyone knows that the straw man has been the backbone of political debate since Dewey decisively trounced Truman in 1948 as evidenced by the front page of the unimpeachable Chicago Tribune being held up by what I assume to be an elated Dewey campaign worker..

        [–]scryforhelp 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        research indicates

        Thank you for immediately proving his point

        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I know barely any liberal gen Zers. It's always millennials. Gen Z almost seems more easily swayed towards the alt-right.

        [–]MuskyIndependent 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

        Do you even know any college students? Well-informed is not what comes to mind.

        [–][deleted]  (14 children)

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          [–]MuskyIndependent 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          They spend more time absorbing useful information than the rest of us

          Maybe more than you.

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            [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Tis true, you do not absorb much here.

            [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            That information is anything but useful. Most universities are nothing but leftist indoctrination centers.

            There probably shouldn't be taxes to pay, because there is a much better system than democracy: no government.

            [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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              [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              And if there is a government you'd probably be a slave in a coal mine. Only this time with a government to codify it.

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                [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Look at literally every non-western country. Most of them live under totalitarian regimes.

                [–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                Define useful information. Because many of them are taking in political jargon. They are told to think with emotion at the expense of logic.

                You cannot call what they learned as useful if they plunder themselves into debt without any appropriate exit strategy.

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                  [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  Neither have you

                  [–]notafed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  You must be nuts. I'm in university now, as a middle-aged man.

                  The crap they're being taught in the humanities and arts should disqualify them from voting for 10 years after they graduate.

                  [–]1Icemonkey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                  Informed with bullshit.

                  [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                    [–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    Yet you provide no empirical evidence to justify this claim. You cannot call them informed when they act at the beck and call of the leftist indoctrination machine.

                    How can you call them informed when they preach for bodily autonomy while simulntaneously wishing severe punishments for those who refuse to take an experimental injection?

                    [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                    No one is informed. It's almost impossible to be informed with how today's media works.

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                      [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                      Oh that's right, I forgot, the media is always right and can't be wrong, and we should just trust everything it says without question. Unless it's Fox.

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                        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        And so is CNN and all the other media.

                        [–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        Except no they aren't. I am in school and see how one-sided every issue is presented. You cannot declare they are more informed when they are denied any access to opposing viewpoints. This is textbook indoctrination.

                        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

                        Why stop there? We'll just bring back monarchy!

                        https://i.imgur.com/JhUVaIx.jpeg

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

                        Or we could take steps to make the electorate better informed. Regulations that news shows had to give equal time to opposing sides of an issue and reinstituting the ban on domestic propaganda seem like terrific first steps.

                        Single ruler systems can work well with the right leader, until succession goes to the lesser abled, like their numbnut kids.

                        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

                        That all sounds like big government. Your regulations would silence viewpoints that aren't Democrat or Republican, and things like "propaganda" are the same excuses people use to censor the opposing views.

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

                        That all sounds like big government

                        It would simply be reinstating old policies.

                        Your regulations would silence viewpoints that aren't Democrat or Republican

                        Like the Chinese point of view? Yeah, I don't really want foreign nations having a voice in America.

                        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                        Okay so now you're straight-up advocating for censorship.

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                        Of foreign nations, obviously.

                        Are you sure you haven't been replaced by the Matrix?

                        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        I'd be more worried about you getting replaced.

                        What makes a viewpoint "of a foreign nation"? This is the excuse North Korea uses to ban anything Kim Jong Un doesn't like. An idea can't be foreign propaganda. Its execution can be, but even then, who gets to decide whether something is propaganda or not?

                        That policy would also silence American viewpoints that aren't Democrat or Republican. And contrary to popular belief, they do exist.

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        This is the excuse North Korea uses to ban anything Kim Jong Un doesn't like.

                        And as I have said before, he has a point in doing that. Look at what's happened with South Korea and western influence, we have had a big hand in altering their culture. North Korea is more traditional. Preserving your culture like that doesn't seem awful to me.

                        who gets to decide whether something is propaganda or not?

                        The old propaganda law made it illegal for the US Government to deploy propaganda to its own people, the proper recourse for a breech I imagine could be initiated through the judiciary by any number of parties.

                        [–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                        More government overreach. Rather than push stupid ass policies why not encourage people to think for themselves by teaching them how to critically assess information?

                        Are you afraid people will come to a conclusion you have deemed "problematic?" Because it seems you are more focused on controlling the flow of information than you are at teaching people how to properly screen information

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                        You cannot elevate people above their capabilities. Not everyone is suited to critical thinking.

                        [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                        Everyone thinks they are better than everyone else.

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                        Some people are more capable than others, have you never attended public education? You can't "fix" the slow kids in class.

                        [–]ShekelPa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        lol. They are not required by law to be impartial or honest.

                        They promote their lies and then promote a retraction one week later that receives around 5% of usual traffic.

                        If you do not watch the news you are uninformed.

                        If you watch the news you are misinformed.

                        [–]MuskyIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        This is what I'd like back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

                        [–]Zapped 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

                        So you're advocating giving people the ability to vote who can't figure out (or are too lazy) to get proper I.D.?

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                          [–]ShekelPa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                          Using the same leftist buzzwords by the communist party. You argument is now invalid and questionable.

                          [–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                          That is disinformation, isn't it?. A student I.D. is not a government issued I.D., which is required to vote in certain States. Therefore, it is not sufficient.

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                            [–]ShekelPa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                            Your proposal would allow non citizens to vote. The same demographic you people cater to. Fancy that. "Educated voters" are neck deep in "misinformation" that you people approve.

                            [–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                            You are stating an opinions as fact. That is misinformation.

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                              [–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                              That's how DIS-information works. You lying calling me a liar. The MIS-information comes when you state your opinion as fact. You sound like Trump.

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                                [–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                Here you go:

                                If the students are legally registered to vote, a university picture ID is sufficient identification.

                                [–]1Icemonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                Wow. No kidding.