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[–]agent_pecan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

heck yes! At least MO will have fairer elections again. Still need to make the ballots public so that everyone can audit them to get it all the way.

[–]TotoroDeams 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Still need to make the ballots public

Eh, I say no for safety. Especially in the TransNazi age.

[–]agent_pecan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Stop worries about trannies

[–]Objecting_Sphere 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No, the right to a secret ballot is essential. Make them public and we'll have huge amounts of harassment. I honestly think that would be a powerful weapon in the hands of "activists" which would shift the balance of power in their favor. Remember that in many companies, being a Republican is practically a fireable offense.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Better to have open transparency with a bit of "harassment" than corrupt leadership frauds.

If bitcoin and banks can manage precious funds with levels of openness, security, and transparency, it's fucking obvious they could do the same for elections if they wanted to.

[–]agent_pecan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Secret ballots enable fraud, that is where we are now. If companies realized how many republicans they have in their rolls they would not threaten termination

[–]PopsicleToes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree. Open ballots is a terrible idea. All types of audits have worked perfectly well with the secret ballot. Also, the only reason to repeal mail-in voting is to make it harder for what the governor considers the "wrong" people to vote. In a number of states, well before Covid, voting by mail has gone on with nary a hitch or challenge.

[–]raven9 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Finally people waking up to what they have been doing. There are only two reasons for allowing any kind of absentee voting, to enable election fraud and to enable election fraud.

[–]PopsicleToes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Have you run that theory past the many thousands of US service members abroad?

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Service members have whole government entities and several federal laws asserting their right to vote with state mail in ballots and to also vote with special mail in backup ballots. Their ballots are always checked for duplication and validity using these extra layers of security, provided by the need for backup ballots.

It's no new fringe theory, everyone has known mail in ballots are a serious election vulnerability and best to only allow in special circumstances and with extra layers of protection. It wasn't even 10 years ago that the bipartisan election security report came to this very conclusion.

[–]Objecting_Sphere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that's unnecessary. Investigations did not find any significant voting fraud (by which I mean more than a few duplicate votes submitted my individuals), despite both sides trying to amp up their bases by claiming the other sides were submitting fake votes. They don't need to check your ID to detect voter fraud, because any significant number of fake ballots submitted would cause duplicate ballots. And if that check fails to happen, then there's corruption at a level that could ignore any ID checking on the ground.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is the democrat controlled states that have election integrity issues and those are the ones that will do nothing to fix it.

[–]dingoatemytaco 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It also bars the use of electronic vote counting machines after January 1, 2024.

This part is excellent