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[–]StillLessons[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Entirely predictable, and the perfect example of the extreme blindness prevalent among too many on the left regarding the meaning of an armed citizenry.

He's still talking about guns for hunting and target shooting as though that's the reason guns are selling out around the country. I am baffled as to how people like Moore cannot see obvious political violence - from both sides, though more broadly and frequently from the left in recent years - and realize that people see the writing on the wall.

I'll make it simple for you, Mike: the people are demanding guns to defend themselves against their political opponents, who are making it quite clear they find the gun-owners' presence on the planet unacceptable. This is self-defense, not only against street-level crime, but against political violence. You're telling people to disarm?! Seriously? When the government has declared half the population "deplorable"? What world do you look out and see?

A thought exercise for you, Mike: imagine your scrapping of 2A goes through. Then another Trump is elected, only not friendly and cuddly as Trump was, but serious about it. This new "Trump" is actually committed to wiping the left off the map, and he's willing and able (not stymied politically like Trump I) to use the force of the US government to do it. How are you going to stop him?

Political violence swings both ways. It is entirely ambidextrous. You are essentially telling people to trust the government to defend them. Seriously? Your naivete about the trustworthiness of government needs to have a serious meeting with the history of governments abusing their populations throughout history. The first step is ALWAYS to disarm the population.

Yes, there is a cost to having an armed population. We are paying that cost. It is not pretty, and I am in favor of all methods we can come up with to stop insanely unhappy people from killing large numbers of their co-habitants here on Earth. Giving sole power over lethal firearms to the organizations on Earth consistently responsible for the greatest loss of life (warfare and domestic repression) is a monumentally stupid reaction to a very serious problem. You are working to empower an aspect of human behavior (governmental authority) which is head-and-shoulders more lethal than any other we know - to replace the empowerment the populist aspect of human nature, which has a significantly lower death count. Orders of magnitude less. It's not zero. The shootings we see are tragic. Nobody disagrees with this. But your solution is like trading in the painful rock in your shoe for the boulder which will crush the life out of you.

[–]SychoShine509 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So who then is willing to keep guns available but take away at least all the surplus military ones from the cops and saving that money to put into instruments of peace instead? You in favor of that option? Taking the claws out of the beast.