Where are all the conservative socialists in the West?

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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Socialism as a theory had conservative believers, however there has been 100 years of communist and socialist experiments proving how horrible it is in practice. The only people dumb enough to still advocate it are ignorant children brainwashed by jews, and low IQ bottom feeders who live on welfare.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

To you I wish to loose everything dime you have so you would have to rely on welfare to survive. I hope that might teach you a lesson on why we need it. If you do get welfare, you might recover and stand up back on your feet again. Without social welfare, you would probably starve...

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

People who use unemployment temporarily to get back on thier feet do not support socialis. Social safety nets are not socialism. The problem with those is leaches always want more. We already have too many welfare programs and people take far more than thier share and squander it on frivolous shit.

A lot of people simply refuse to work, collect benefits multiple times, spend it on drugs, and despise all the "stupid" people working hard and being forced to support them.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

If a welfare program is being exploited by those who don't need it it is a badly designed welfare program. That should have been accounted for before its implementation. A good example of a safeguard would be giving out food instead of hard cash. Or giving a card that can only be used to buy particular products.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Let's fix the programs we have, then people will be more likely to accept new programs.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What programs do you have that you don't like?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Free cell phones and internet.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why? Since internet is something everyone uses it should be a free service. Obviously you should put a cap on how much someone should be able to use for free a month like 30GB or so, but everyone should be able to freely access it.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Because it's not free, tax payers are paying for it. And it is a distraction not a tool they use to better themselves.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"tax payers are paying for it" Good. If they have the money to spare they should pay their taxes which could be used to help the needy.

"And it is a distraction not a tool they use to better themselves." Another conspiracy theory? You are using it right now.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's more of a problem with the American mentality of ultra materialism and extreme self-entitlement than a problem of systems.