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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That's a disinformation website.

Voter ID laws differ in some counties of some states that are listed as not requiring an ID:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws_in_the_United_States

Voter ID laws are improving in various states. A registered voter is already identified in documents at the polls, even if someone else tries to vote for that person. If someone is caught voting twice, he/she is prosecuted.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ha! Dan Abrams runs a disinformation site? You crack me up with your "fake news if it doesn't fit my narrative" argument. Are you saying the information in the article is not true?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes.

The approaches here and above are intentionally misleading, for reasons I've noted. If you think the election was "stolen", you've been mislead. If your response is "wot - it ain't true?" This isn't my "narrative"; it's backed by 80 million voters. Voter ID laws are improving.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am specifically talking about the rules for voter verification being changed in 2020. You are trying, as usual, to redirect.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/ballots-can-t-be-tossed-out-over-voter-signature-court-n1244585

Here's your "real news" site.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This had a minor impact, if any, on the election

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How do you know if there wasn't voter verification? Your opinion not based on fact. I have opinions, too, based on experience or a gut feeling.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Voter registration contains the updated ID (in most cases, +/- a few dead people). If you know somewone who is registered but is not going to vote, AND you want to risk going to jail, you could try to vote for that person without bring your ID. But people who've done this have gone to jail. Let's say you know 10 people you want to impersonate at the polling stations, you have to select times and places where the same polling volunteers won't recognize you and try to vote in those areas. Let's say there is a highly organized group that keeps track of who votes and who doesn't vote, and then tries to get others to vote for the non-voters, in specific districts, at specific times, for specific people who might not be recognized by a neighbor volunteer at the neighborhood polling station.

In all of these scenarios, the impact is at most a few hundred votes, not nearly enough to help develop a 7% majority in a country. It just doesn't work, is not worth doing, and there are cases of people going to jail who tried it.

It's easier to hack the voting machines, which is where we should look. This happens in every election.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are underestimating what people can and will do if they are paid enough. Also, someone voted as me in the same election as I did and the election board counted both votes, so the system is broken in that way.