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[–]RightousBob 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

The republic fell quite some time ago. Question is, will it ever be restored?

[–]NodeIndependent 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

It would need to be restocked with functional humans, but the supply has been cut off.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh dear. The problem isn’t the humans, its the software.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Functional humans voted for Biden/Harris, to Democracy worked in this case.

[–]NodeIndependent 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Functional humans voted for Biden/Harris

Dementia Jao, and the Indian chick who fucked and sucked her way into dimocrat politics? 🤣

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You seem like a lovely person.

[–]NodeIndependent 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

No one would describe me as 'lovely'. Firstly, we don't really use that word in my culture, and secondly, that is no way for a functional human to be, unless it's a sort of pet. But then it wouldn't be a functional human.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

we don't really use that word in my culture,

Lol. I bet you’re lovely as well as functional. No homo.

[–]NodeIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe sometimes, but don't tell anyone.

[–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Only after a major culling.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You must be fun at parties.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

November 22, 1963.

[–]fschmidt 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (39 children)

Democracy is unsustainable when the population becomes moronic scum.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

Thankfully the moronic scum did not outnumber the Biden/Harris voters.

(Only idiots would not understand mail-in ballots, but that is Trump's demographic.)

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

Only idiots would think verification though Voter ID was racist and tyrannical but vaccine passports weren’t. Its like democrats think their base is some kind of ‘moronic scum’ that wouldn’t be capable of applying for a voting ID. Oh wait that’s exactly what they think.

Hey let’s get some of this “moronic scum” off the voter rolls. I know, we’ll implement a polling test! Just to rule out the really “moronic scum”, say <85 IQ. Its the scientific thing to do, to keep the “moronic scum” from voting. That’ll be good for Biden/Harris. People with really high IQs will vote for Biden/Harris. That’s smart. I fucking love science! Do you fucking love science too?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

All ballots were varified with an ID deemed appropriate in each state.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Deemed by who? A Biden Harris government employee. Everone knows this was a fraud and Biden is an installed puppet of the oligarchs. Otherwise they could have audited the votes in these highly questionable corrupt voting precincts. They could have put all this to bed.

Theyve been importing “Biden/Harris voters” as fast as they can and its still not enough. All the billionaires and their MSM outlets still weren’t enough. Still had to cause an epidemic to manufacture justification to commit voter fraud. Can’t win without multiple strategies of skullduggery. Truth wouldn’t serve “Biden-Harris” because its a sham. Biden did’t want school integration because of the “racial jungle” it would cause. Biden is a rapist who penetrated a young intern against her will in a public place. Harris jokes about smoking pot while locking people up for the same. These are your working class heros— puppets of the elite who shit on the peasants.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Deemed by who?

By the traditional standards.

Should there be election reform? Sure. But the majority of voters got their choice for president, warts and all. It's that simple.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Were you saying this in 2016 when spy agencies were pushing the russian collusion hoax? Bet not.

This time there was actual fraud.

Traditional standards say gender is binary and women dont have penises. You down with traditional standards now? Across the board?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is always fraud. And electronic voting machines should be banned.

But the evidence for fraud has to be sufficient enough for an investigation. For example, a claim that: "I saw a lady rescan 100 ballots" isn't sufficient evidence, because the claim from the scanning lady is that the first scan was not read.

Cambridge Analytica helped elect Trump in 2016 by spreading disinformation. Now that disinformation is spread on websites that are popular on Saidit, some of which noted on /s/ShitpostNews

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Traditional standards meant voter verification. This was removed in the 4 key states that swung the election for Biden.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

None of the articles you linked have ANY relevance to my comment. You are trying to put up a smoke screen. Misdirection.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So you're not reading the articles? They debunk the "voter verification was removed in key states" argument. You're welcome. What you've read before is anti-democratic.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What does "appropriate" mean to you? Many states didn't verify ID's and some went backwards with verification in general.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/a-big-deal-for-voting-pennsylvania-relaxes-mail-in-ballot-rules-will-no-longer-match-voters-signatures/

This is just one example.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That's a disinformation website.

Voter ID laws differ in some counties of some states that are listed as not requiring an ID:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws_in_the_United_States

Voter ID laws are improving in various states. A registered voter is already identified in documents at the polls, even if someone else tries to vote for that person. If someone is caught voting twice, he/she is prosecuted.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ha! Dan Abrams runs a disinformation site? You crack me up with your "fake news if it doesn't fit my narrative" argument. Are you saying the information in the article is not true?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes.

The approaches here and above are intentionally misleading, for reasons I've noted. If you think the election was "stolen", you've been mislead. If your response is "wot - it ain't true?" This isn't my "narrative"; it's backed by 80 million voters. Voter ID laws are improving.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am specifically talking about the rules for voter verification being changed in 2020. You are trying, as usual, to redirect.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/ballots-can-t-be-tossed-out-over-voter-signature-court-n1244585

Here's your "real news" site.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This had a minor impact, if any, on the election

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Okay so what is the solution? I have a lot of ideas for a fix, but here is one: make the voting age much higher. There is a reason so-called revolutionaries always target the youth. They are easy to manipulate. There is a point where you have to say IQ is not the only piece of the puzzle and very intelligent people can be manipulated by people with machiavellian traits. I think postponing voting and certain decision making to an older age is one way to fix the “moronic scum” problem.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If the population wasn't completely moronic, as it wasn't in early America, then the early American system should be used to determine the electorate. Basically only men who own their home and have no debt should be allowed to vote. This would limit the vote to responsible men.

But today the population is entirely moronic scum, so there is no political solution. The practical solution is to leave.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I dont really think Americans are moronic (some of them are certainly). They just let the wrong people get control of their culture. The solution is cultural.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was thinking today that America produced more of real value in any week between 1950 and 2000 than it did in the entire decade of 2010 to 2020. The cause is both cultural and genetic. But whatever the cause, the decay seems irreversible. Why would any sane person want to remain with such degenerates?

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because I love my people and I love my country. I know that most of my people are not degenerates. That most of the ones that are can be fixed, at least the next generation of them can.

I view it as a cultural problem. Some people may never be able to fit in to a more high functioning culture. Nice countries have nice things because they have high standards: a strict rule set that doesn’t allow people to fuck around all day. Everyone wont be up for that. We dont need to include those people.

The people that built this country are still here. Can you imagine people who have been here for generations making things work, from wilderness? We should cut and run because the bolsheviks waylay another country? These things come and go. They will eventually let go and move on to their next blood meal. Maybe this is the end of “America” or “europe” but I take a wait and see approach. I understand the problem and I know the solution is to make more people understand the problem, because the solution is within ourselves. Im not even close to running. The problem is cultural.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The music from 2000-2010 was overall really disappointing. I'd say that's one thing 2010+ has going for it, there has been a lot of solid music produced. As an example, scanning the 2000s top billboard singles, in 2005 there's just Gwen Stefani's Hollerback Girl as a bright point, which is a fun song if not particularly inspired. There's a number of marginally better songs that year, including Gold Digger, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Mr. Brightside... Actually 2005 gets a pass. It's not great but it's sandwiched inbetween some real garbage.

. Why would any sane person want to remain with such degenerates

The music if nothing else, besides one decade.

And it's no accident either that happened. That was deliberate by the music industry. I think they were using bad metrics or something to valuate songs. It's why Nickelback got so big even though people didn't really like them all that much.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is an example of good music since 2010? By the way, I made a related thread here.

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    [–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Too bad the educational system is so infected with crazy and corruption that there is no salvaging it. Time to knock it down and start from scratch. Privately.

    The problem is we are now too diverse. Far too diverse to form a functional high trust society.

    Groups of people all over the world evolved in unique environments in which different strategies and behaviors were useful.

    The US was founded by a bunch of cold climate agrarians with a strict set of rules (christianity). Then we tried to include a bunch of people that weren’t those things and we threw away the rules. The results are predictable— chaos.

    Some behaviors you cant teach. People develop them over a very long period of time. Groups evolve with their own cultures. Cultures are the rules of society. Everybody has to be following the same set of rules to cooperate. Otherwise no one will trust anyone. Prosperity is the first casualty. Multiculturalism = no trust =everybody poor. The problem cannot be fixed in a civics class.

    [–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I would consider the raising of the voting age, but as long as 18 year-olds can serve in the military, 18 year-olds should have the same rights and privileges as everyone older, including consuming alcohol.

    [–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Why’s that? Eighteen-year-olds make good soldiers and shit voters. Their parents vote— that’s good enough. 18 yr olds have zero skin in the game, zero. They haven’t produced a thing. And they can’t begin to understand politics. Or economics. Or history or the law. Even a stupid old person is a better voter than an 18 year old. Why would anyone let them vote? They get to vote when they grow up. Or they can fuck off.

    Im very much in favor of raising the drinking age. Maybe we could let 21 year olds have beer or wine. I dunno.

    oh they’re old enough to serve in the military so they have to be able to barf their brains out after getting loaded in a bar and fucking some stranger.

    No. We are not obligated to allow another generation to waste their teens and 20s getting drunk and high and fuck around. Sorry Hollywood not this time. This no rules liberatarian approach is a psy-op from the psychopaths that have taken over our popular culture. These people want young men and women to make bad choices and lead dissolute lives. Because broken fucked up people are easier to rule.

    but my right to get hammered.

    Nope.

    [–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree that youth makes for both good, mold-able soldiers and poor, manipulative voters. If you send an 18 year-old to combat, you don't think they have skin in the game?

    "We are not obligated to allow another generation to waste their teens and 20s getting drunk and high and fuck around." "I view it as a cultural problem. Some people may never be able to fit in to a more high functioning culture."

    I see these as two conflicting views and I think the second is the better one. One of my "ah-ha" moments was being taught that people's personalities are different and they want different things in life. I used to wonder why some people were ok with just existing and not trying to get ahead to make a better life for themselves. In a lot of cases, they are taught this is normal by the example their parents have set. Sometimes it's just their personality that makes them this way. We don't have to reward the underachievers (we can use this class as the worker bees without remorse), but we can't condemn them for being human. We should make everyone play by the same rules even if is not the most productive way to advance society.

    [–]scrubking 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Trump Won so he is the rightful president.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    You know there is no evidence for this.

    [–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They’re hiding it.

    [–]mongre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    What I don't understand is how hijacking the popular vote resulted in any change in the electoral college vote, which is used to determine the next president.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It puts subtle pressure on certain officials. Those who place the idea of democracy above law, and want to act moral, may start taking suggestions from the winner of a popular vote instead of following their official orders.