“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid.” --CDC Director Robert Redfield

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

They aren't corona-deniers. You are falling for psychological warfare. Read Prince by Machiavelli.

[–]alkhd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So are 0.75% of the population not responsible for 15% of deaths? Sounds a lot like denying to me.

I'm not from US. My country publishes death stats with cause of death. There's one number that counts all deaths by people who tested positive with corona in the last 28 days and one number that counts people whose actual cause of death was corona. These 2 numbers differ very little (~5%). Comparing excess deaths this year versus precis years also show an excess by roughly the stated number of covid deaths.

I guess the whole world is just making shit up because everything revolves around the Republican party and making them look bad. Countries sacrifice a good chunk of their gdp for this reason. You guys are pretty much the only people in dispute.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Not a republican. I hate the political parties. If you think there aren't doctors who dispute this shit, please spend some time online looking for information you seem to ignore. I understand all of what you are saying. I doubt for even one second that you understand what we are saying. You just gobble up a bunch of confusing shit. This isn't a pandemic. If it were, us anti-maskers WOULD BE SICK. If this were a real pandemic, the American homeless would line the streets, and entire churches, schools, and companies would explode with cases. That never happened, because this isn't a real pandemic. People are getting misdiagnosed (I know doctors who are upset about this) and death reports are being falsified (I know a single coroner who quit his job because of this). If you think there isn't contention on this issue, then look into doctors from Germany, Spain, Sweden, and Canada. There are tons of doctors in those places who have gotten on the TV at least once trying to say the truth. They don't get invited back, not because they lie, but because they challenge the media and their handlers.

[–]alkhd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm the only one here who have provided any information lol. Not everyone who doesn't wear a mask gets coronavirus and not everyone who has coronavirus dies. You're one of the "lucky" 99% who didn't get coronavirus - congratulations.

I don't gobble up confusing shit, do you literally not understand how percentages work? active cases make up 0.75% of the population yet they make up for 15% of deaths. This is to refute: "also anyone who dies and tests positive for corona is being counted as a corona death". Logically 0.75% of the population would make up for 0.75% of deaths, not 15%. Doctors do not misdiagnose - they take a fucking test and the test show either negative or positive.

In Sweden we can look at excessive deaths this year versus other years, it will show that roughly 5000 people more have died this year during the period corona was active compared to other years (roughly 2000-2100 people died per week instead of 1600, for 12-13 weeks). Lining up almost perfectly with corona statistics reported here. Even if people are being misdiagnosed as you are saying, there's still 5000 extra deaths, unless you want to deny that 5000 people died over here and they're just made up names. (5000 might not sound like a lot but we're a small country, 1/30 the population of US, so about 150k deaths if scaled up to US population).

The other guy was trying to say that the numbers are wrong - maybe you are just trying to say that the bad people on TV are saying it's worse than it really is and that not that many people are ultimately getting sick/dying. If it's the latter then fine - in your opinion it might not be so bad and in the long history of the world a million or a few million out of 7 billion people dying is not that serious, it's still people dying though, people with families etc.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've been misdiagnosed by doctors twice. They CAN and DO misdiagnose and mistreat all the fucking time. I almost lost a testicle to those bastards. It took the twelfth doctor to use his head and do more than prescribe me pills.

[–]alkhd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People get tested for corona. That you got misdiagnosed for other shit honestly has nothing to do with corona and I'm not sure why you're mentioning it? I'm honestly sorry to hear that you went through a lot of trouble due to the healthcare system/doctors, it seems like it's sadly a pretty common occurance in all countries.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because people are being purposefully misdiagnosed with coronavirus you thick headed nut. Don't mistake my meaning.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Other people provided information, you just ignored it. If you want more, go to s/coronavirus or coronacircus.com, or you could just start googling relevant information from the past thirty years concerning the WHO, Fauci, and the CDC. There is a lot that you seem to ignore.

[–]alkhd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I checked out coronacircus.com now but honestly it just looks like a psychotic person rambling about nothing? Literally, what the fuck is the guy talking about?: https://coronacircus.com/2020/08/21/more-on-consciousness/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't fully agree with that one. But you should consider thinking that matter comes after consciousness. Changes the paradigm if its true, and it would explain a lot of phenomenon people just write off nowadays. Also, there are multiple writers there, so I only focus on the media links offered by them. I don't focus on their nonsense conclusions, but I take interest in the LINKED material they collected.