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[–]useless_aether[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

this is meaningless, what we have is not what they wanted either

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Exactly, so lets go back to the days of Silver certificates, real republicanism, liberty and freedom and allodial title. NOT Ancapism.

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

btw, don't want to derail the thread but this reminded me of this comic

so allodial title is still around: https://www.sapling.com/8696537/method-obtain-allodial-title-property

but the great thing about ancap is that you don't need to fear the government will take your land, because there is no government, rendering this title unnecessary

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Can I Have Allodial Land?

Sure. If you want it bad enough. If you haven't seen it before, go to the video store and rent Braveheart. William Wallace was fighting for allodium. Thanks to him, his people had it-- for a time.

It's not just about taxes, it's about all rights. The right to use the land as you please. Even the right to make your own laws, and name or create your own jurisdiction, goes with the allodial rights to land. As far back in history as you can study, a man's freedom is tied to the land. Without land to call your own, you have no place to freely exist.

If your land is zoned, then you don't have the freedom to do with your land as you please.

Environmental codes, restrictive covenants, county health regulations, all dilute your rights in the land. Many of these so-called laws are enacted unlawfully and unconstitutionally, but when people fail to object, they abandon their rights.

Here are the steps I would take to establish allodium in land, if I were to choose this battle:

  • Acquire a parcel of land which you are willing to walk away from if the battle becomes too much for you.

  • Send a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the authority which collects property taxes for your land. Ask them to provide evidence of title for all lands in which they claim an interest of any nature whatsoever. If you manage to get them to respond at all, they will produce deeds for land which they own by commonly recognized standards. Such as the township hall. They will not produce title for your land, or make any claim on it. That which they do not claim to own, is abandoned by them.

  • Send a similar FOIA request to the county, if they were not the same local authority mentioned above. Ask them for any evidence of title they have in your particular land.

  • Same with the state. Make sure you send all these requests by registered mail, with a return card, so you have proof of service. If you don't get answers, send notices of fault and default at appropriate time intervals.

  • Construct a public notice to the effect that you have requested all these entities to produce evidence of interest in your land, but that they have produced none. Include the land description. Post the notice on the public bulletin board at the county courthouse, and publish it for three consecutive weeks in a local newspaper of record. Be sure to include the phrase "Notice to agent is notice to principal."

  • Construct a public notice, in affidavit form, which includes copies of all your publications, postings, FOIAs and proofs of service. Make a claim for all rights, in allodium, in your land. Include a metes and bounds description. Be sure the affidavit states that you withhold jurisdiction, and are recording only for the purpose of giving notice to the public. Record your notice with the county Register of Deeds.

  • When you receive tax bills, return them refused with a notice that they produce evidence of title superior to yours. Do not pay them.

  • Refuse all subsequent tax and foreclosure notices, and counter with demands to show cause.

  • Post visible notices at all attempted tax sales, stating that you do not abandon your rights in the land.

    • During all this time, either continuously occupy, or at least maintain continued custodial care of the land. Never abandon it.
    • When you get out of jail, keep going back. Will you succeed? Probably not, but you'll never know unless you try. Do I recommend this? No. But then I don't recommend anything along these lines. It's up to each of us to choose our own battles.

Obviously, if everyone did this, the game would be over. There aren't enough cells for everyone.

People are ruled like cattle and sheep, except that the fences which hold us are constructed in our minds.

I hope this will be a foundation for further study and action.

https://www.sites.google.com/site/judicialdeception/allodial-title

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

case in point i paid taxes today for the land i own to the council.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, hence, no allodial title. If we got everyone to state their rights and obtain allodial title all at once, then it would work. that's why fear and perception management is needed to curtail any sort of community. Attacking education is of the utmost importance to them becuase if they can control how you think and what you learn they can control the past, present and future.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

they are not new to this game. but we are.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

WE are not new, either, we just forgot.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well yeah, they have the means to maintain different forms of proprietary, institutional knowledge for themselves spanning centuries. eg think of the vatican archives or all the classified stuff..

meanwhile we are being dumbed down, our curriculums are a joke and censorship and propaganda are over the top.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Force all the land owners to inhabit their land for the freedom to do with it what they will. In other words, keep corporate overlords from destroying/polluting somewhere far away of no consequence to them, yet to their benefit.

" when people fail to object, they abandon their rights. "

Not really. The people who "claim" their rights do so with red tape. The original people still have all their Natural Law rights. And even if the claimants and the police show up, all the red tape in the world can't justify whatever wrongs the aggressors do to the original people.

That's a lot of red tape and hoops.