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[–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Contemporary portraits here, though somewhat Romanized in appearance

Romanized 🙄. Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek.

[–]niggerjewfaggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Seems you've never seen the term, which is a common reference to the cognitive bias of artists to make portraits look partially like people the artists are most familiar with, or also to make portraits look somewhat like themselves. It's also unlikely that the sculptors and painters responsible for those portraits at Wikipedia had seen Cleopatra, but instead had to use portraits of her for their own work. Moreover, there is archaeological evidence that Cleopatra's mother was Egyptian. Regardless, 10 out 15 Ptolemy marriages were intermarriages. In short: artists working for Romans would often make veristic sculture and paintings appear to be partially Roman, even if that was not the intent. Hence my argument that her portrait might be somewhat Romanized.

[–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

1.Greeks and romans are similar looking.VERY similar looking.

2.What archaeological evidence?

[–]Luminato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1.Greeks and romans are similar looking.VERY similar looking.

Not similar, especially not 2000 years ago when Cleopatra lived. Do you know the difference between a Roman and a modern Italian? https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.iABAs30-XsCbF_tw2FoonwHaFY%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=70848f6cf7d3d021f487fd2bb6ed8c01a446392008239ec9682a24ca5668a09c&ipo=images

[–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are many surviving statues of both Greek and Roman art.Statues of real people too,not just heroes and gods.They are very similar and very different compared to subsaharan Africans.Many Italians visit Greece,I have met many Italians,we and them are very similar looking today also. Any invasions Greece and the Italian peninsula dealt with,were not enough to significantly alter our genome.

PS.To the idiots saying that the Greek DNA was altered by the Ottoman Turks : It was the opposite. Greeks and Turks did not officially mingle,because they belong to different religions,Christianity and Islam.Marrying with a person of a different faith,meant that one of you would abandon their religion and converting to the religion of their spouse. People were pretty fanatic about their faith then.Turks though had the power and will to kidnap young women to place in their harems and young boys to convert and use as soldiers and bureaucrats.(Google "Devshirme"). The original Turks were very Mongolian looking,but most of Turks today look European and Anatolian (who looked very similar to Mediterranean Europeans ).