Italy Is Forcing HALF A MILLION People Out Of Their Jobs And The Prime Minister Is Unpersoning Them: "The Unvaccinated Are Not Part Of Our Society"

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[–]Ehhhhhh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Whats wrong with raising chickens? Wouldn't that be something to do within your local community?

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't want to run around to all my neighbors talking about it. It's a great idea, a good bit of set up work to build good coops and keep foxes out, keep them fed and warm enough in the winter, keep roosters and control the pairings so we can get eggs and future chickens, have enough so there's a healthy and sustainable gene pool. They eat bugs and provide poop to be composted. They're fun to watch.

Same with all live stock. They each provide multiple benefits, require good planning and set up for not so very stressful but very stead and not to be ignored maintenance and vigilance. Communities could produce their own eggs, and wool, and composted manure, with just a bit of work.

[–]Ehhhhhh 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ok. I agree that chickens are good and beneficial, but seems to be a disconnect or contradiction between saying to focus on local communities, yet then you not wanting to focus on your local community.

Not sure what point you are making.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Without a doubt it is a contradiction on my part, a hypocrisy even. I do grow food each season and keep herbs in doors in winter, started smashing clam shells for compost/soil amendments. I have two neighbors I can easily talk to about it actually. I need to break that ice and just do it. I guess I want to have the perfect looking yard with everything running like clock work before I dare raise the idea-- that and having the money to invest in the building that will be involved. The money has to be first.

Have you done this? Any tips?

[–]Ehhhhhh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A little bit on raising food. I hope to do better this year and get chickens and quail again.

I started losing my chickens last time due to predators (coon or skunks, I think) but couldn't trap because I had some pets that I was worried about getting in. Kept catching cats in the live trap and chickens kept disappearing. I need a better enclosure for them to keep them safe at night.

Something that I have done is to barter with folks or trade extra eggs or rabbit poop for veggies. Have a couple of friends that share extra stuff from their gardens. Just doing that at first helps to break the ice and make small talk about gardening/raising animals. If you come across ones that are truly interested, then exchange tips and even produce, etc eventually.

Also, you don't have to be an expert. Sometimes it helps for others to see what you have in progress and can give them the confidence to try themselves. Just talk about health benefits at first (no hormones, antibiotics, pesticides, gmo, etc) and you won't come off as some "crazy prepper" to some.

Thats a way of breaking the ice and seeing who might be actually interested in being more self sufficient.

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, I agree with the just do it idea. I try, and fail, to jump in with all pistons firing and metaphorical-guns ablazing just because I know there will always be things unexpected.

I'm surprised cats were being the predators. The farm I used to get my food at had cats and chickens and they didn't really bother each other. They walked past each other like it was nothing. Same with their dog. Also, I did not think raccoons or skunks would be predators.

Part of me speaking about it here, and being open about my failures in that regard, is to get me to at somepoint step and do it. You asking me about it is what I need.

[–]Ehhhhhh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Cats weren't the predators that time; they just kept getting into the traps which prevented me from catching whatever was eating them.

We did catch several feral cats too (in addition to the pets). Those were prob after our baby chicks, since that time was near the baby chick coop.

The tame barn cats did kill a couple quail before we reinforced the bottom of the quail tractor that we made, though.

We could be more active in a homestead group, if ya like. It might help give motivation.

I really want to do herbs for cooking, but also medicinal, so would be nice to have some tips.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find herbs easy to grow, plus many make great companion plants to the more popular food crops. Basil plus tomatoes is maybe the most famous. (Garlic, carrots, marigold, basil and tomatoes play nicely together in a bed.)

I will look at the homestead saidit, which I guess is what you were referring to.