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[–]magnora7 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Creepy.

WEF training apparently has taught them to infinitely double-down on this covid power-grab stuff, even though the science isn't aligned with them at all anymore. It looks like they want to cause massive revolutions and instability. And build public distrust as deeply as possible, not just in the figureheads but in the entire institution of government. Then people will clamor for a new institution and the WEF and the next wave of trainees will have the solution ready to deploy. Semi-global governance, potentially backed by a cryptocurrency. That's how it looks anyway.

What most western governments are doing right now is not sensible or science-based. They're trying to piss people off. They're trying to create the trucker convoys and ensuing revolution, and ensuing breakdown of institutions which clears the way for new institutions to take their place. This isn't a "whoopsie" overreach like most people think, this is an intentional agitation to generate larger-scale protests. Remember the intelligence-agency-created "Arab Spring"? Or the "Color revolutions" in soviet satellite countries? Now those tactics have come home to roost in the western world, it seems.

[–]FlippyKing 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

good points.. "Out of chaos, order" is the mantra, and they make the chaos and enforce the order. They offer the only choices they let us see.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Precisely. Ordo ab chao, the Freemason slogan.

Combined with the old "Problem, reaction, solution" setup, where they create the problem guide the public reaction via the media and then sell you the solution, it is quite a potent force.

I think every person needs to truly wrap their minds around these concepts and how others are abusing them, before humanity can rise to a higher level of wisdom. This is what should be taught in school, because it's what drives our world.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I think one important point is that all these problems are far off from us, and we're made frightened of them by theater (TV, radio, internet). We really need to push off the yoke of these distant masters, stop sending them food, stop pretending they have anything to do with us at all besides what they take or we give them, and commit to our local communities. Yes, I'm a hypocrite here on Saidit (thank you for building it), but ... I don't want to sound crazy running around to all my neighbors talking about growing turips and learning to like eating them or at least eating them in spite of hating them, or who will raise the chickens, where the cows will go, how do we run a water system, and all that.

[–]Ehhhhhh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Whats wrong with raising chickens? Wouldn't that be something to do within your local community?

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't want to run around to all my neighbors talking about it. It's a great idea, a good bit of set up work to build good coops and keep foxes out, keep them fed and warm enough in the winter, keep roosters and control the pairings so we can get eggs and future chickens, have enough so there's a healthy and sustainable gene pool. They eat bugs and provide poop to be composted. They're fun to watch.

Same with all live stock. They each provide multiple benefits, require good planning and set up for not so very stressful but very stead and not to be ignored maintenance and vigilance. Communities could produce their own eggs, and wool, and composted manure, with just a bit of work.

[–]Ehhhhhh 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ok. I agree that chickens are good and beneficial, but seems to be a disconnect or contradiction between saying to focus on local communities, yet then you not wanting to focus on your local community.

Not sure what point you are making.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Without a doubt it is a contradiction on my part, a hypocrisy even. I do grow food each season and keep herbs in doors in winter, started smashing clam shells for compost/soil amendments. I have two neighbors I can easily talk to about it actually. I need to break that ice and just do it. I guess I want to have the perfect looking yard with everything running like clock work before I dare raise the idea-- that and having the money to invest in the building that will be involved. The money has to be first.

Have you done this? Any tips?

[–]Ehhhhhh 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A little bit on raising food. I hope to do better this year and get chickens and quail again.

I started losing my chickens last time due to predators (coon or skunks, I think) but couldn't trap because I had some pets that I was worried about getting in. Kept catching cats in the live trap and chickens kept disappearing. I need a better enclosure for them to keep them safe at night.

Something that I have done is to barter with folks or trade extra eggs or rabbit poop for veggies. Have a couple of friends that share extra stuff from their gardens. Just doing that at first helps to break the ice and make small talk about gardening/raising animals. If you come across ones that are truly interested, then exchange tips and even produce, etc eventually.

Also, you don't have to be an expert. Sometimes it helps for others to see what you have in progress and can give them the confidence to try themselves. Just talk about health benefits at first (no hormones, antibiotics, pesticides, gmo, etc) and you won't come off as some "crazy prepper" to some.

Thats a way of breaking the ice and seeing who might be actually interested in being more self sufficient.

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, I agree with the just do it idea. I try, and fail, to jump in with all pistons firing and metaphorical-guns ablazing just because I know there will always be things unexpected.

I'm surprised cats were being the predators. The farm I used to get my food at had cats and chickens and they didn't really bother each other. They walked past each other like it was nothing. Same with their dog. Also, I did not think raccoons or skunks would be predators.

Part of me speaking about it here, and being open about my failures in that regard, is to get me to at somepoint step and do it. You asking me about it is what I need.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We really need to push off the yoke of these distant masters

Agreed. It's kind of funny how much people let TV people control their lives, even though they've never met them.