And then they came for the Lesbians.... BBC - 'We're being pressured into sex by some trans women'

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    [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    What is most ironic is that the trans-activists are using against the radfems the same tactics to displace them that the radfems used to displace men for more than 4 decades. If anything this is a "you get what you fucking deserve" moment, since they are being beaten with the same stick they used to brownbeat men. And oh boy, they are not liking being on the other end of the stick one bit. Not at all.

    For example, they had no issues when affirmative actions laws were introduced that forced businessmen to hire women against their will ( women tend to work less hours and make more use of social benefits ) , up to the point to sue any company who didn't gave a job to diversity hire women. But now suddenly it became a problem if companies, especially in female dominated sectors, are forced to hire trans as diversity hire, now suddenly it becomes an "invasion of women spaces", now suddenly is "immoral" to sue those companies for not hiring "transwomen". And I can go on and on and on, there are countless examples of this kind of double standard doublethink.

    [–]MyLongestJourney 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (55 children)

    They were fine with riding the train of frankfurt-school societal deconstruction to their own benefit

    Who,lesbians? Are you serious dude ? Just because a minority of ivory tower academics like Butler (who is bisexual BTW) endorsed this bullshit ideology,that does not mean lesbians endorsed it en masse. And pray tell what benefit does post modernist queer theory offers lesbians???

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      [–]Elvira95 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (11 children)

      What a fucked up fascist you are. These sites is full of mentally insane nazis. You're the other side of the coin of trans activists.

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        [–]Elvira95 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

        Isn't the numbers that make things rights or wrong. Thinking a lesbian should force herself to sleep and live with a man, against her nature, in a life of happiness and mental torture, is fucked up and inhuman. We women aren't walking baby machines, we got zero duty to have children. not that having children would require living or fucking a man to begin with. Your vision is just pure cruelty, totally lacking humanity and straight up mysognistic and nazist.

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          [–]Elvira95 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          There is nothing indecent or degenerate in my homosexuality. And even though, I am myself a very private person and not a someone you could know the sexuality without me saying, who prefer to not talk about my sexuality except if I trust someone, I would feel suffucated if I was in a relationship and I had to constantly hide, pretend I was single or just with friend because my relationship being seen as some kind of degenerate behaviour that can corrupt society and prevent the nation to prosper. WTF. The difference between my view and yours, is that you views is based on oppression of people basic freedom of expression to fit some backward narrow order of society.

          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          just walk around out in public with your lesbian gf, don't kiss or grope her or anything though. Straight people shouldn't do this either, no one wants to see it.

          [–]MyLongestJourney 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          you aren't going to take a husband then at the very least you should stay in the closet. What's more important than anything else is not corrupting public morals with strange and indecent behavior

          Do not blame your own corruption on others.

          [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          What's more important than anything else is not corrupting public morals with strange and indecent behavior.

          What's so bad about it? They shouldn't have pride parades but they shouldn't have to hide it and feel guilty for it either. You not liking something doesn't make it wrong.

          I think the main difference between our frameworks for viewing the world is just individualism vs collectivism. From my perspective, there are things worth putting aside one's own happiness for. These things include the preservation of a harmonious and orderly society, as well as the prosperity of our race and nation.

          Exactly what a leftist would say.

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            [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Fascists, socialists, commies, same thing. Yes, 99% of humans throughout history have been evil because that's how humans are hardwired to be. And whenever a good prophet or wise person or heaven forbid God himself showed up they first hated them and had them tortured and killed, then pretended to be on their side while changing their teachings.

            [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Kekw

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

            lesbianism has increased at the same rate as testosterone in men has decreased, and intake of soy has increased. Can't be a coincidence. All women are bisexual for different evolutionary reasons, they will prefer a chad first of all, if they can't get one they will prefer another woman to meet their sexual needs rather than a sub par male. With a sub par male they risk getting pregnant with poor genetics, not so with another woman.

            [–]Elvira95 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

            Lesbianism hasn't increased, and most women being bi is total bs. But it is true, there are bisexuals who got crazy high standards for men, because men are lot to choose and generally desperate, the one who do all the approchiang, and women are selective by nature, so they prefer to date women or men pretending to be women, because their standards for women are far lower (since the options and competition for them are far lower) or because they have trauma with men. They're not the majority of women by any means, but a small minority. Personally I do despise strongly the men hating bisexual women who pretend to be lesbians.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

            brutal elvira pill

            [–]Elvira95 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

            What does it mean? I do have a sort of empathy for het men. I do find unfair the much more effort they need to do in dating. Women can be extremely demanding, and shallow. But I do think is just nature. Women libido is far lower than men and women need to choose the best possible mate to get pregnant, as they got limited chance to reproduce in their lifetime, comparing to men who can make lots of women pregnant. It's just like nature work, males compete for females who are choosy. Do incels have a point? I do think they do. What they're wrong is that they act like women own them sex, and some of these incels do become transwomen and are able to attractthe men hating bisexuals and just being probably more able to attract female they don't find physcally repulsive as they would if they stayed normal males.

            Sure not being able to have relationships with people you have attraction for isn't great, and cause suffering because it goes against human inbuilt needs, but accepting it and work being content rby yourself regardless of women validation is the only one can do. In the end I do understand the struggle because finding someone is a very tiny dating poll is a lot like being a man rejected by 98 percent women, except probably the chance of finding someone who is cute and compatible are higher.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

            accepting it and work being content rby yourself regardless of women validation is the only one can do.

            we could do this. But is it the only possible thing to do as a solution? Possibly working to oush back on feminism and woke culture might also yield benefits. World has never been perfect but men had a better chance in decades past. Due to a patriarchy existing.

            [–]Elvira95 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

            It's the only possible fair solution, as women are not properties, but human beings and they don't own you sex or affection. Sure, in a world where women are oppressed and forced to depend on men to survive you will have better chances, but oppressing half the population so the other half can satisfy their sexual desires, it's beying immoral and unjust. It's the sexual entitlement incels have that makes them repulsive. One can have empathy for their suffering, but once you start promoting oppressing women because you think them as some kind of rights, rather than independent human you can't own, that you totally fall in the wrong.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            really in a lot of ways women being hit with all this woke feminist propaganda is what is making them properties, you wouldn't have gone down this path if not hit with subliminal messages since birth. Including the thought that it is oppression.

            [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            What they're wrong is that they act like women owe them sex

            If there are any incels who believe this, I still don't get why anyone takes them seriously.

            [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            It's way more than just dating. I'm asexual and the burdens and loss of joys males have to deal with in all areas of life is making me extremely depressed and resentful of the world for being so unfair. The things we don't have worse are in the single digits, and even those are only small advantages like peeing standing up.

            It's insane no one talks about this. The social expectations are unbearable on their own but nothing compared to what happens to us physically and especially mentally. If you read up on sex differences in the brain women get the positive stuff and we get the negative stuff because we're supposed to sacrifice ourselves completely for sex, fighting, and work. Because it's very unfair but it survives better so it wins!

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              [–]MyLongestJourney 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              You do not need Critical Theory/post modernism to dispute "traditional views" on what lesbians should do.

              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              That is an evil agenda. Ideally humans and all conscious animals should stop reproducing so more beings don't have to exist and suffer in this hell world. No one signed up to be born here, and no one signed up to be part of evil societies. Stop listening to your instincts, they are evil and corrupted by the devil and the matrix.

              [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

              Radical Feminism also comes from the Frankfurt School and has many of the same problems as QT and CRT.

              Before RF it was accepted that the patriarchy hurts both women and poor men, with RF all men are privileged and oppress all women. This simply doesn't fit with most outcomes we see in society. It's a good analysis for a few areas maybe.

              [–]MyLongestJourney 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              I am talking about LESBIANS not RADICAL FEMINISTS. Lesbians,aka homosexual women.Or are you under the impression that all lesbians are radical feminists or ivory tower academics of bullshit like Butler?

              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

              if one is a lesbian they're either a radical feminist or a trans supporting feminist, so saying you're a RF is a compliment relatively.

              [–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              I see there is no point arguing with you.Have a nice day.

              [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Lol

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

              They should have only allowed it to be LGBQ with no T in it from the start.

              [–]Elvira95 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

              The Q was the one who started gender hysteria. Before it, trans were just a few homosexuals who were very feminine or masculine to the point of having dysphoria. The Q is an ideology that want to deny the existence of sex and is made mainly of unhinged or perverted straight people

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

              true. But all of the letters are degenerate, it is a race to the bottom to see who can have the weirder fetish. None of it should be allowed. After T next we will be adding pedophilia and beastiality.

              [–]Elvira95 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

              Yeah, because the fact I'm exclusivity attracted to the same sex is basically the same as wanting to rape children or animals or being a man who want the world to pretend he is a woman. The amount of insane bigots in this sub is giving me a good laugh.

              [–]WhiteZealot 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

              There are degrees of unhealthiness.

              Homosexual activity is unhealthy because it 1) is wasted time and energy that should be going toward the advancement of your genetic interests (i.e. increasing the number or power of those who resemble you, genetically, or the extent to which their group average resembles you), 2) creates an association in the brain between homosexual activity and pleasure, thus making it more likely that you will do said activity again, and has other harmful psychological effects (e.g. creates a self-loathing, affects ability to have a healthy relationship with both men and women), and 3) inflicts these harms on another person.

              Furthermore, being an open homosexual is unhealthy because it 1) sets a bad example to children, and makes it more likely they will partake in homosexual activity, and 2) alienates you from your community, because people have a natural disgust for homosexuality and do not want homos near their children.

              [–]Elvira95 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              LMAO Oh God the delusion.

              Homosexuality isn't a sexual disorder. It's a natural innate inclination. I had it since I was in like kindergarden, never knew homosexuals existed till I was like in my teen, lived in a very conservative little town, but my natural inclination and emotion towards female were there, because it's natural.

              People don't have natural disgust from homosexuality, bigots do. It's true human got an aversion from what is different or from what they don't get, it's evolutionarity to work in patterns and having aversion from what doesn't fit pattern or what is different from us, being physically or sexually different, but with education and familiarity, this aversion pattern is lost.

              I don't want to generate people similar to me, if I wanted to I would go to sperm bank. Fucking a woman is great natural pleasure, as my sexuality is naturally set toward females, and it will be pleasurable regardless of me being sexually active or totally not active like I am right now, while fucking a man could never be pleasurable since I'm not biologically capable of being sexually aroused by male traits. I would self-loathe myself if I fucked men against my nature, not the opposite. I can perfectly have healthy relationship with both sexes, I got not problem with men, I do actually prefer their company, I just don't want to touch their dicks.

              There is no harm in a consensual relationship between two adults liking each others. But you are inflicting harm on human rationality with this pile of illogical bs.

              [–]humancorpse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Homosexuality isn't a sexual disorder. It's a natural innate inclination.

              many men go homosexual after their first hit of crystal meth.

              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              It's still possible it's a disorder, but that doesn't make it wrong like everyone seems to think. I have a ton of disorders, is that wrong? No, it just makes my life harder, and in fact them being disorders validates my increased burdens. Humans are a very socialist and conformist species, any deviation from the norm at all is not what was "supposed" to happen. This can be good and bad, good because it's variety and dissent, bad because it could make things harder for you. No one has the right to tell you you have to be "cured" of something or pretend to be normal if you want it.

              [–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

              Being an open lesbian is unhealthy because it 1) sets a bad example to children, and makes it more likely that children will have a sexual disorder and/or be open about said disorder

              Evidence?

              [–]WhiteZealot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

              Children are molded by the characteristics and behavior of those they interact with. A society in which there are no homos and no homo-friendly rhetoric is going to produce the least number of homos in the next generation. As you increase the exposure of children to homos (whether closeted or open) or homo-friendly rhetoric or raise the status of homos within society, you will get more homos in the next generation, up to a certain limit. If you need evidence beyond this reasoning, see this pic.

              [–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

              Your initial hypothesis is that children will turn gay just by looking at gay people. Instead of providing evidence for this you attempt to argue that the more open homos exist,the more open homos will be in the next generation which is a totally different thing that your initial claim.The number of homosexual people stays the same,you just see more in the open. That does not mean that the population of homosexual people increases because young children see gay people and turn gay by imitation.

              I would also like to add that today a lot of perfectly heterosexual kids claim the queer label for clout and oppression points.

              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              A society in which there are no homos and no homo-friendly rhetoric is going to produce the least number of homos in the next generation.

              No, they'll just be forced to hide their sexuality to survive.

              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              increasing the number or power of those who resemble you, genetically, or the extent to which their group average resembles you

              Yeah that's evil. It may be natural but it's evil.

              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Is it perversion though? Because one would think that the sex drive goes away from the chemical castration.

              Let's take a closer look. The majority of trans are MtF, yet nearly all detrans were FtM. And if you take the red pill, I think that pretty much wraps it up. Women simply have it a lot better than men in general, biologically and socially. There's a reason they're always much happier, even in countries that treat them like shit. So the truth is that a lot of men are just sick and burned out and depressed from their burdens, and see the privileges and easy living that most women have handed to them.

              [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

              I can't believe people are upvoting this. Being against homosexuality and transgenderism because your religion condemns it is makes total sense. But wanting them beaten and executed simply because you don't like them? That's sick. And blaming it on the Jews? I feel like I'm talking to the left's strawman.

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                [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                You're the ones who went leftist here. The only difference between you and them is that you promote and censor the different things. I've never heard of libertarians being anything but extreme right on the American dichotomy, so your calling me a leftist is even the same as how they call everyone alt right.

                Your redefinition of right as "preserve the social values" is literally leftist. Just because you don't like the particular flavor that modern trendy leftists are pushing doesn't mean your system isn't the same.

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                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  That definition of left and right hasn't been used in America for centuries, it's from Europe in the Renessance period.

                  There are four modern uses of the left/right dichotomy. One is that left=socialism and right=capitalism. A more general one is that left=government and right=freedom. Another is left=collectivism and right=individualism. Finally, there is left=liberal and right=conservative. So in many ways it's actually the opposite of the one you're talking about. For three of two of these you are on the hard left, and another one is inapplicable to your ideology.

                  Left-libertarianism refers to libertarian socialism and anarcho communism which I consider oxymorons. Socialism and communism are infringements on individual freedom and are collectivist, therefore incompatible with libertarianism.

                  [–]MyLongestJourney 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

                  Dude.They came for us FIRST.The TRA attacked lesbians first. This shit is going on since 2012.At least.

                  [–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  Longer than that.

                  Dr Em has articles tracing the issue back to the 70s.

                  https://uncommongroundmedia.com/just-be-nice-feminism-part-i/

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  why only fightin it now. Lesson learned.

                  [–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  We have been fighting it for a very long time.

                  [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                  I now sexually identify as a shillfucker.

                  If socks doesn't suck my old dick he's ageist.

                  If ActuallyNot doesn't eat my ass he's assphobic.

                  I think we may have a shill, ist, and phobe problem on SaidIt.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  If ActuallyNot doesn't eat my ass he's assphobic.

                  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNP_7UwlHc)

                  [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  A++

                  [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (46 children)

                  I do think, if someone pressures anyone to have sex, and they don't want to, just say no, no need for a big to do about it. This likely never happened:

                  "I've had someone saying they would rather kill me than Hitler," says 24-year-old Jennie*. "They said they would strangle me with a belt if they were in a room with me and Hitler. That was so bizarrely violent, just because I won't have sex with trans women."

                  [–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  In mean Dana Rivers did kill a lesbian couple and their child for not believing trans women are women and the Australian axe ma'am was triggered by a lesbian turning him down so I'd say threats of violence like that are pretty common (also comparing people to Hitler is the norm for the woke).

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  I guess it's possible it happened, just unlikely. I'm not trying to defend trans, they're nuts, but I tend to call BS when I see it. The article here is mainly about "pressured into sex". That does happen with straight men and straight women too but I feel it's not a problem, women can just say no, and many do with no problems, maybe in like .001% of cases it leads to rape or murder, women, lesbian or otherwise, should avoid badboys in order to prevent this.

                  [–]MarkJefferson 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  I do think, if someone pressures anyone to have sex, and they don't want to, just say no, no need for a big to do about it. This likely never happened:

                  These people are frakking nuts, so I really wouldn't put it past them.

                  [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  they went with the hitler thing for maximum shock value. Have to remember, this is sjw vs sjw so both are nuts. Circular firing squad, and we are watching with popcorn at the ready.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (41 children)

                  One of the main problems seems to be the continual condoning or just out dismissing of this behavior. What is even more hypocritical is the behavior of intersectional feminists who were all about 'enthusiastic consent' for "cis" men just about a few years ago and now flip-flopped the narrative for "transwomen".

                  [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

                  someone else in this thread made the point that trans men are really just incels who have tried a new strategy to try to get a woman. Women hate incels with a passion so are criticizing them for wanting to have sex with them here, nothing new except for these incels wear a dress. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

                  Yeah, those are the the so called "transcel" or "transmaxxer". They are not all of the trans, mind you, most of them are people who genuinely suffer from sexual identification disorder. But yeah, transcels are a thing, sadly.

                  https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/7osf/transmaxxing_the_incel_to_trans_pipeline/

                  https://kurtistripp.substack.com/p/transmaxxing-and-trancels

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

                  i don't see why a regular decently handsome straight male who wants to have sex with women would go transgender. A gay guy sure, but he wouldn't then want to have sex with lesbians.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                  You are assuming these are handsome straight males with no mental illnesses. That is not the case for these people.

                  [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                  true

                  I do think lesbians will have sex with a man if he is hot enough. There are "lesbians that have sex with men" just like there are "men who have sex with men" and then say they aren't gay. People can label themselves whatever they want but if they have sex with both men and women they're bisexual.

                  [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                  I do think lesbians will have sex with a man if he is hot enough. There are "lesbians that have sex with men" just like there are "men who have sex with men" and then say they aren't gay. People can label themselves whatever they want but if they have sex with both men and women they're bisexual.

                  another brilliant hot take from u/popper!

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  just statin facts

                  [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  can you illuminate us on how the sky seems blue or the moon is a thing that seems to happen in the sky at night? i like to eat food and drink fluids, how does that work?

                  [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                  i don't see why a regular decently handsome straight male who wants to have sex with women would go transgender. A gay guy sure, but he wouldn't then want to have sex with lesbians.

                  wow, that reply is quite a mindbender. im glad you got this all figured out!

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  are you transgender?

                  [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  are you transgender?

                  im better. i identify as a crossdressing/gay/hetero/elvis impersonator.

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  might want to get hormone levels checked

                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

                  Because women generally have better lives than men in almost every aspect. Sometimes drastically. In humans, males carry the heavy loads and burdens while females have pleasure handed to them in a golden bottle; (their only real role in procreation and thus the human agenda is to become pregnant, males do everything else, so females are otherwise free). This is forced by both biology and society. Especially biology, as women are significantly happier even in countries where they're treated like shit. It ultimately comes down to male disposbility. Extremely unfair, but nature favors what wins, not what's good. And what wins in this world is usually evil.

                  Look at the trans stats too. Notice how most are MtF but nearly all the detransitioners were FtM. Everything points to the grass being much greener on the female side.

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

                  a decently handsome straight guy is what I said, they live the best lives

                  you're right about the rest

                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

                  An attractive white woman is better off than a handsome guy by a long shot. In fact almost any woman is.

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

                  so much so that the handsome guy, who gets regular sex, will decide to go tranny? I'm sure it happens like a handful of times just is very rare compared to the majority, ugly guys going tranny.

                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

                  I'm considered one of the most handsome guys around.

                  It doesn't do shit for you if your main goal in life isn't to get girls. Actually many "attractive" qualities for a male become negative in that case. I'm scary, I look tough and mean, my bone structure is uncomfortable (like I feel like I'm wearing armor I can't take off, and my browbone squishes my eyes, stuff like that). I'm probably talented in traditional male activities, which means I lost the ones I actually want. But in nature my life doesn't matter as long as the women are good.

                  I honestly kind of wonder if the reason it's such taboo for a boy to do anything even remotely "girly" is so we don't discover how badly both biology and society are taking advantage of us.

                  [–]MarkJefferson 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  To set the common vernacular straight, the males call themselves "trans women", and the females call themselves "trans men". The label for the "gender" they want to be. Not the sex they actually are.

                  [–]tyranicaloverlord 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

                  The problem with the trans nonsense is not women wanting to be men, it's men wanting to be women.

                  The majority are a bunch of perverts who want to invade female spaces.

                  [–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                  You would think. "Transmen" have been increasingly harassing gay men.

                  [–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  I've met many men who are trans to female. I have only met one female trans to a man, she likes women.

                  [–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  There is an increasing number of heterosexual women who ID as men and pressure gay men to have sex with them.Ask around in LGBDroptTheT Saidit group.

                  [–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  This is something I have not heard of. Surprising.

                  [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  that's true. Often times lesbians are accepted more because men think two hot girls kissing is hot, it's porn, it shouldn't be allowed either. Of course gay men, or tranny men, is far worse.

                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  Because you hate them worse.

                  Again, not everyone should have to conform to your preferences.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  Pathological narcissism seems to be a pretty common comorbidity of sexual identification disorder. Then, of course, the conclusion of the false premise of "transwomen are biological females" is that they feel entitled to female spaces.

                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

                  Why does it only matter for women? Why are mens' problems unimportant while womens' need immediate tending to? Why do women deserve more for simply existing and being female?

                  [–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                  I'm not sure I am following your contention. Men wanting to act like women and invade their spaces, such as locker rooms, sports, and bathrooms, is a problem.

                  Women have already invaded the male spaces, we have nothing left cause the cucks gave it all away, see Boy Scouts for example.

                  [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                  Because you said it's not a problem for women to want to be men or invade male spaces, but it's a huge problem for men to do the same thing to women.

                  Why? Is that not a double standard?

                  [–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                  I don't see lesbians and trannies having much in common. One of them likes dick and the other doesn't.

                  [–]MarkJefferson 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                  While it's commonly believed that all male trans are androphiles(attracted to men), That was only true before the autogynephiles began opportunistically identifying as transwomen. Nowadays, androphiles are more the minority of trans, while the majority identify as so-called "Lesbians".

                  [–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  So a male trans to female to become a lesbian. That fucker just went about getting laid by women the most convoluted way possible and I don't think that fucker has a chance.

                  [–]MarkJefferson 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  It's conceptually convoluted but since gender self-id is accepted now, it should be easy to accomplish. I was curious about how easy so I transitioned back and forth many times while typing the last sentence, and have now experienced the extremes of trans oppression and cis privilege. What a rush; I need a smoke..

                  [–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                  So wokescolds sent a letter, signed by over 8000 of them, to the BBC complaining the article was mean and hurt their feelz and the BBC told them to stfu.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  Oh dare them defy the mob ! amirite ? Because that's how it seems from out here. Like a lynch mob trying to beat everybody else into submission.

                  [–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                  I remember one American GC dad, who used to be on twitter, said he had tracked most of these woke activists down to 10 or so people just sat at home all day running hundreds of socks.

                  Your tax dollar is paying for these malingering AGPs moulder on disability and harass women.

                  [–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  That doesn't surprise me at all. Seems like the typical keyboard warrior activist modus operandi.

                  [–]Heterophobe4Life 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  They've already come for the Gay men, too.