Washington State Coronavirus Field Hospital Will Be Dismantled Without Treating a Single Patient

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[–]rightykiller 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

fox news huh, not a valid news source

[–]bonked_or_maybe_not 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How I fucking tire of people that are willfully ignorant:

Shall I fucking continue or are numerous other sources INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR ISSUING THE ORDER HIMSELF still fake news to you?

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would have replaced valid with reliable.

[–]Nemacolin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Wonderful. Washington and California are as close as we have to success stories.

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    [–]Nemacolin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    I would be happy indeed if you were right. But I am afraid you are not.

    I just checked. Over a hundred Swedes died of this virus yesterday. Here is a link to their government's advice, in English.

    https://www.thelocal.se/20200228/coronavirus-the-everyday-precautions-to-take-if-youre-in-sweden

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      [–]MaxAssRoom 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Am I miscalculating something here? I think you might be right, /u/candyboxradio.

      In Sweden, 100 people died. Out of a population of ten million, that means .001% died. In the UK, 917 people died. Out of a population of 66.65 million, that means around .00135% died?

      Don't get me wrong, it's a grim situation - but is the lockdown really preventing deaths?

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        [–]MaxAssRoom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Yeah I'm not particularly great at figuring this shit out. That calculation is food for thought, though.

        Like you say, I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

        [–]Nemacolin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Well as I pointed out a few times, people like you are morally confused. Americans believe people are equal before the law, and in society and in general. We do not think some people are more worthy of life than others. This is an Old World concept, "Lebensunwertes Leben," in German. Americans never really bought into that whole idea.

        We might be forced to make dreadful medical decisions but we do not think the people who fought WWII are somehow disposable.

        There is a new way of thinking, one that values an economy more that people, the rich more than the poor, the young more than the elderly. It is obvious this system of belief is pushed by those who most benefit by it. The idea is that some less-valuable people have to die to keep the Ruling Class rich and happy. Seems a pretty messed-up way of thinking to me.

        [–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I think this is the nicest thing you've ever said, Neems.

        [–]rightykiller 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Sweden said it didn't need a lockdown because people could be trusted to socially distance themselves. The government still says the strategy is working.

        [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        Don't listen to /u/Tom_Bombadil and the like. I was skeptical too until my neighbor died of COVID (2 days ago). He was 50 and was in excellent shape. One day, he was fine. The next, he was sick. The next we was dead. I can't believe he is gone.

        This is absolutely a real threat and we should do everything in our power to ensure hospitals can handle the influx of patients.

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          [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          He actually lived in Santa Clara next door to my childhood home, where my mom still lives. I realize how incredibly unlucky this was because actual mortality rates are super low in the area (not quite as low as SF, but low). I cannot overstate how much I wish that made any difference. He is dead and the way he died freaks me out.

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            [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            What freaked me out was how fast it happened. He ran a half marathon with me in December and was in awesome shape. I did not personally see him suffer but my mom was the one who drove him to the hospital.

            Seriously though, before this happened I was convinced this whole thing was blown out of proportion. I, like you, do not trust the media AT ALL. I could not believe anything until it affected someone I know personally. I still have concerns and skepticisms but this is not benign.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            I'm flattered that an obvious shill (with barely a karma point of credibility) is discouraging others from reading my comments.

            I'm clearly doing something right.

            This is high praise! ;-)

            [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Yes, you have done something right, if your goal is to spread misinformation.

            Karma points are not a measure of credibility, only a measure of how much time you spend on SaidIt. Also, who's more likely to have inflated karma: a shill or a regular user?

            If you actually had a leg to stand on in all these ridiculous arguments you get into you wouldn't have to make ad hominem and straw man attacks so often.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Yes, you have done something right, if your goal is to spread misinformation.

            FTFY.

            Thanks for the kind words.

            You and I both know that you're an amateur shill.

            Your arguments are too foolish to dignify with a response.

            Here's a few truth bombs that castrate your emotional sob story.

            Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted (List of authors. Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.)

            If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%)

            Proof from the horses mouth that it's a hoax.

            This Is Strange: Total US Deaths in March 2020 are Actually Down 15% from Average of Prior Four Years

            Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

            [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Oh dear. You are either projecting that you are a CCP shill or you are just very confused. If it is the latter, I genuinely feel sorry for you. Everyone has desires for (1) understanding and certainty, (2) control and security, and (3) to maintain a positive self-image. Try putting all three categories aside when you look for answers and form opinions.

            It is better to withhold judgement and lack strongly held opinions than to latch onto falsehoods. Your first link is a credible source but you seem to be gleaning a lot more from the article than the authors intended. The second two, the Gateway Pundit and the Off-Guardian are classic right wing propaganda sites. You are clearly starting with your own suspicion as a hypothesis then only looking for sources to backup your original idea.

            Another example of an unfounded opinion: that I am a shill. If that were true, who do you suspect are my accomplices? Why? Just curious.