you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're not familiar with Chinese history. The provinces do not wish to be ruled by the center that extracts their wealth for use on imperial goals. China isn't a nation, it's an empire. Left to its own devices it would break up into parts, as has happened many times before.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's not unique to China. Do you think Oregon wants to be ruled by D.C.? The South failed to escape. Tibet will never be free of China and Puerto Rico, Philippines, nor Detroit will never be free of the USA.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

more recently when quebec tried to secede from canada, the queen said fuck no. The lites want more centralization, not more decentralization. China has tight control, really just taiwan and hong kong they don't have control over and they are working on hong kong.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, more centralization is the order of the day. Fracturing only happens to those they wish to control - from balkanizing nations to destroying strong ethic communities in cities enticing and forcing them into the bland "white" suburbs where they are much weaker as a people, and with feminism and other weapons breaking up the family unit. A Brave New World is the goal with just individuals vs the "state".

Quebec never really had a chance anyway. I would be fine if Quebec left so they could be happier on their own, less strangled by Ottawa, etc. I'm quite sure we'd still trade, etc.

Canada is not a dominion free of the crown, despite them saying so in 1980-81. That was just more political theatre.

The Queen(tm) is more than just some tart in a frilly hat. She's just the figurehead of one of the largest institutions in the world.

And Taiwan has never been out of their sights. It is in essence one of those proxy battlegrounds when necessary, for wars in business and policy, maybe eventually even in blood.