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[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (31 children)

*affect.

"Effect" is a noun. Affect is a verb.

You affect things, and those changes have effects.

[–]Questionable 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

These two words are the bane of my existence. The effect had an affect, but it can't it be affective*... No it's effective! And if Effect is a result or consequence, can't it simply replace affect in most instances?!

"Unfortunately, as it seems is always the case, there are exceptions. There is, alas, also a noun form of "affect" and a verb form of "effect."

I will kill you all.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah those words suck, honestly.

You affect things, and those changes have effects.

But you can also "effect change" and you can collect your "affects". But those are much less commonly used and only used in certain contexts. I only hear effect used as a verb when followed by the word "change", usually during a speech. And I only hear "affects" used to mean "personal items" as a noun when in a business context, or from an estate. And the emphasis is on the first syllable on both these rare versions, but on the last syllable in the more common versions.

So one could make a statement to have all 4, like this:

"You've affected too many things and created a lot of effects. So I'm going to effect some change around here and fire you. Please collect your personal affects from the office on your way out."

English is a bitch. I'm so glad I don't have to learn it as a second language or I'd be screwed.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm so glad I don't have to learn it as a second language or I'd be screwed.

Well, i think you might need to do some remedial study. lol

[–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Seriously, I hate it when they ruin a perfectly good comic with that.

Also, channeling my inner coastal liberal elite for a moment, I have noticed the grammar's so much worse when it comes to the right. Not that the right isn't in the right on like 90% of issues now IMO.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, but a lot of it is left-leaning people roleplaying as very dumb right-leaning people, in order to make the right-leaning people look foolish. I've seen that tactic come in to play increasingly often these last few months. Not saying that it's happening in this post, but it does happen

[–]TheEvilNick 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Either way it's just funny. Why is anyone caring when shit like this is peddled anyway

https://www.thecollegefix.com/professor-says-grading-good-grammar-are-examples-of-white-supremacy/

So everyone correcting grammar is racist

[–]supersmokio6420 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The comic uses it correctly. Its talking about the effect of the changes. The changes affect things, causing an effect.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, effect is a noun here and therfore correct: "It has no effect on your life". You would use affect if it was "It doesn't affect your life".

You do a verb, you cannot "have" a verb

[–]Three_oneFour 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oof, proving the grammar nazis wrong, this a whole new level of how fucked up the English language is

[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not.

[–]copenseethe 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I see this as well and it is embarrassing for the right. But, it's also an indication that the working class leans right.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"Education" is all about brainwashing and propaganda these days. Missing out on the finer points of English grammar means you also probably still think there are only two sexes.

[–]madcow-5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Key words:”these days”. I’m a boomer according to the idiots in college now.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A pseudo-boomer, eh? I'm pretty much as boomer as you can get, and it was great! Of course, most of us didn't realize the building was on fucking fire, or didn't think the whole place would burn down.

Now it's starting to look like that nightclub in the northeast from a while back, and there's no way out of here either.

[–]TheEvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and "their" (I KNOW) boomers to the kids in high school

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But humans do have only 2 sexes...

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unless you've received a new-think education. 36,000 genders. Miscegenation. Trannies. Evil Whiteness. And all the rest.

Comes included with whatever passes for real teaching.

[–]grocerymannn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

not exactly. you can effect change.

[–]Three_oneFour 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I just use impact because fuck that shit, I'll always get the two mixed up

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

yes, but no, valid in this case use.

His choices affect her life, causing an "effect on <her> life"

or, from grammerly:

So, if A affects B, B experiences the effect of A’s action.

specific example:

Tina’s big win had an effect on her confidence level overall.

The key was the words "on your", as that means that effect is being used as a noun, not a verb. If he'd said as a verb, ie: "it doesn't affect your life" then sure, effect is the wrong word.

Remember, on the 'net, as in real life, there is always someone more of a (grammar) nazi than you.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"effect on <her> life"

Yes that's the noun case, as I pointed out. "It had an effect on her life". "Had" is the verb, "an effect" is a noun

The title is clearly using it as a verb, so it should be spelled "affect".

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the example cases I gave clearly show that the usage as given is considered correct. 5 different grammar websites have near identical examples. Go check. Mirriam Webster. Grammarly, dictionary.com, lexico.com, paperrater.com

<X> "had no effect on" <subject> is correct use. 100%.

<X> "does not affect" <subject> is correct use. 100%

the "on" changes everything

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting, I guess the "had no effect on" is a verb phrase which contains a noun, or something like that? The verb is "had" and the object is "effect"

I've never been very good at defining types of grammar, there's always weird exceptions like this

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Grammar is awesome. It makes english a great tool for establishing social caste, and the truly posh get taught a whole level more intricate language use than the rest of us :D

I think you are right. the "had no <X> on" is the verby bit, and the <X> is flavour text. I generally throw in the words 'impress/impression' instead of 'affect/effect' to see which one to use.

[–]supersmokio6420 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The comic is right to use 'effect'.

It [the changes] has no effect [a noun], because the changes do not affect your life.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then the title should be "It has no effects."

The way it's phrased clearly has it as a verb

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You affect things, and those changes have effects.

And hes not talking about himself, so nice try s/IamSoSmart

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You need to work on your reading comprehension and stop going around attacking other users

[–]butterballtofurkey 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm unsure where you learned this English rule. The title is incorrect but not the comic. "Has" is the verb in the comic. "Effect" is used as in cause & effect. The only time in English "no" is used in front of a verb is when the verb is a gerund, ie "There is no running in the halls" when the verb functions a noun. Otherwise, "not" is used in front of verb. ie "This is not affecting you"