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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

My arguments don't need to be appealing to be correct.

" arguing that everyone should vote third-party without any nuance "

Where's the nuance in a rigged duopoly? Nuance is completely unnecessary. Voting is provably ineffective and you always get evil.

" Hillary lost the election [because] They split the vote. "

Hogwash. More folks voted Libertarian than Green sadly. If there were no 3rd parties Trump would have beat her worse, assuming the Greens go Left and the Libertarians go Right.

Further, they have every right to vote 3rd party to reject the rigged duopoly, knowing full well that they won't win.

You won't get change without change.

" you should hold your nose and vote for the one you find least repulsive "

Now THAT'S the rancid stinkin bullshit they want you to believe.

[–]Karen 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13576798/jill-stein-third-party-donald-trump-win

According to Kopko and Devine’s analysis, if Clinton were given all of Stein and Johnson’s votes, Trump still would have won Iowa, Ohio, Georgia, and North Carolina. But Clinton would have won Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — enough to win her the election. Kopko and Devine’s analysis was completed before all votes were counted.

The final totals revealed that, in fact, Stein’s total voters exceeded Clinton’s margin of victory. In other words, if every Stein voter had voted for Clinton instead, she could have won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and the presidency.

Edit to add: This is why Canadians and Europeans need to stop spouting off about American election. You really don't know what you're talking about, and you're just muddying the waters worse than they already are.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

" IF Clinton were given all of Stein and Johnson’s votes "

That's a fucking huge presumptive IF and is purely hypothetical dreaming.

Clearly MANY people did not want Hillary OR Trump.

The lesser of 2 evils is still...

EVIL

If you can't see that then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Americans need to wake the fuck up, shake off the life long muddy water divisive propaganda and patriotic dogma bullshit, and properly organize and rise up and throw off the oppressive ruling class machines - including their bloated military industrial academic complex and all those evil fucking secret agencies.

Also.

[–]Karen 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The final totals revealed that, in fact, Stein’s total voters exceeded Clinton’s margin of victory. Even you assumed Stein's voters would go left.

It's ok to admit you're wrong.

Also

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nice GIF.

I'm usually happy to admit when I'm wrong as I usually learn something. Rarely is it ever painful.

I'm not wrong.