Don't vote for me...

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[–]typhoon 3 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

I'm voting for Ross Perot. That'll show George Bush what's up!

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

LOLOLOLOLOL

[–]horatioherbert 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Commission on Presidential Debates makes us all look like fools, but your vote does matter because millions of better men dies to give you the right. If a third-party presidential candidate received 20% of the popular vote and a few seats in the Legislative branch we could change things overnight.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

" millions of better men dies to give you the right "

NO - that's just the lie they tell you. Anyone doing the killing is a fucking murderer. Besides self-defense, there is ZERO reason to kill or be killed. Everything else is complete bullshit the ruling class perpetuates, passed down through eternity.

Anyone who volunteers for that soldier or police bullshit is most certainly NOT better than me. "Valor" and heroic "glory" of mass murderers is complete bullshit. The ONLY people who legitimately earn those titles are those who actually save lives.

40+ Ways Voting Is A Rigged Joke

" If a third-party presidential candidate received 20% of the popular vote and a few seats in the Legislative branch we could change things overnight. "

Maybe. If voting were effective they'd make it illegal.

[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Your view of war is from your couch so keep on sitting. The right to vote was paid in blood you ignorant fool. Remember that thing they used to teach, the American revolution? Did no one die? Did no man face the barrel of a musket to remove the oppressive yoke of the crown? Do not confuse our current aggressive imperial stance with US's inchoate fight for independence. If you don't believe in popular representation go to China or the DRC.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

" The right to vote was paid in blood you ignorant fool. "

Repeating propaganda doesn't make it true and it doesn't make you clever.

" the American revolution "

Was for "no taxation without representation". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution It was about taxes. The common man did NOT get a vote, nor fight or die for it then. Only the ruling class men got their votes.

Do not confuse your propaganda bullshit for real history.

The founding fathers were Freemasons. They built a New World order that continued to perpetuate the exact same thing but different. A difference without any distinction. Same old same old. Trading the old masters for new ones who used the same techniques and belonged to the same secret clubs and used the same banks and means of oppression.

FUCK POPULAR REPRESENTATION!!! More bullshit between me and effective change. I want ranked-choice voting on the issues MYSELF, NOT for some corruptible puppet who will inevitably disappoint. We have the technology but they won't allow it.

If voting were effective they'd make it illegal.

[–]Karen 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I feel like one of the most frustrating things about political posts on the internet, are all the posts from non-Americans. Why do Europeans and Canadians always want to tell Americans how to vote? Most of you really only know what you see on CNN anyways.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I've spent about 10 years of my adult life in the USA and lived right across the Detroit River for 37 years off and on (rarely have I ever lived more than 100 miles from the US border, like most Canadians). I even married an American. My landlady is American (and I haven't seen her for about 8+ months).

We are all entwined on Earth and the ruling class divides us to exploit us, and many folks like you buy into their tribalist propaganda bullshit.

The American people, land, and almost everything on it are wonderful.

The American aggressive government is terrible (like all government), and the US/Western banking-military-industrial-academic-complex is the GREATEST THREAT TO HUMANITY AND ALL LIFE ON EARTH.

[–]Karen 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Sorry, you're globalist arguments don't really appeal to me.

And a Canadian arguing that everyone should vote third-party without any nuance to the argument at all is total BS, and exactly why Hillary lost the election - They split the vote.

If you want to vote third party in a state that is for sure going to go the way you would prefer, then go for it - vote third party. But if you're in a swing state, you should hold your nose and vote for the one you find least repulsive.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

My arguments don't need to be appealing to be correct.

" arguing that everyone should vote third-party without any nuance "

Where's the nuance in a rigged duopoly? Nuance is completely unnecessary. Voting is provably ineffective and you always get evil.

" Hillary lost the election [because] They split the vote. "

Hogwash. More folks voted Libertarian than Green sadly. If there were no 3rd parties Trump would have beat her worse, assuming the Greens go Left and the Libertarians go Right.

Further, they have every right to vote 3rd party to reject the rigged duopoly, knowing full well that they won't win.

You won't get change without change.

" you should hold your nose and vote for the one you find least repulsive "

Now THAT'S the rancid stinkin bullshit they want you to believe.

[–]Karen 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13576798/jill-stein-third-party-donald-trump-win

According to Kopko and Devine’s analysis, if Clinton were given all of Stein and Johnson’s votes, Trump still would have won Iowa, Ohio, Georgia, and North Carolina. But Clinton would have won Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — enough to win her the election. Kopko and Devine’s analysis was completed before all votes were counted.

The final totals revealed that, in fact, Stein’s total voters exceeded Clinton’s margin of victory. In other words, if every Stein voter had voted for Clinton instead, she could have won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and the presidency.

Edit to add: This is why Canadians and Europeans need to stop spouting off about American election. You really don't know what you're talking about, and you're just muddying the waters worse than they already are.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

" IF Clinton were given all of Stein and Johnson’s votes "

That's a fucking huge presumptive IF and is purely hypothetical dreaming.

Clearly MANY people did not want Hillary OR Trump.

The lesser of 2 evils is still...

EVIL

If you can't see that then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Americans need to wake the fuck up, shake off the life long muddy water divisive propaganda and patriotic dogma bullshit, and properly organize and rise up and throw off the oppressive ruling class machines - including their bloated military industrial academic complex and all those evil fucking secret agencies.

Also.

[–]Karen 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The final totals revealed that, in fact, Stein’s total voters exceeded Clinton’s margin of victory. Even you assumed Stein's voters would go left.

It's ok to admit you're wrong.

Also

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nice GIF.

I'm usually happy to admit when I'm wrong as I usually learn something. Rarely is it ever painful.

I'm not wrong.