Wow, this analysis is 100% true.

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

While there is merit in these arguments, the main point of contentions are the broken agreements and terrible injustices committed by empires after they gained an upper hand in feudal or foreign societies. In the case of native Americans, peace treaties were broken repeatedly and cultural genocides were committed against the natives by the colonial powers after gaining supremacy over their geographies; officially stripping them of their identity and cultural practices.

In the case of Indians, mass starvation and forced opium manufacturing was enforced by the British under said dominion. These are just very basic examples, but if you wanted to defend the idea that colonial powers were fighting to better societies; it shouldn't have been at the expense of millions that are basically the peasantry. Colonial powers despite being agents of "modernization", have also been antagonists at maintaining supremacy and stability in these regions, thereby sabotaging themselves for the years to come.

Now wake up and smell the ashes...

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You're saying Marx was wrong? Uh...I don't know how to tell you this, but he was right about everything.

if you wanted to defend the idea that colonial powers were fighting to better societies

You're. Arguing. With. Karl freaking Marx.

It's like a Christian arguing against Saint Peter.

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Right.. an old dead man rotting as a corpse is going to be more accurate than a sentient breathing entity dealing with the consequences and error of all that transpired during his time.

This is essentially the problem with conservatism. It doesn't respect the giants that forged history, they want them as living breathing zombies to keep dictating the flow of the future.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Karl Marx was not a conservative. WTF? He was right about everything, and we need to implement his ideas right now. It's so urgent it overrides democracy or due process, we need it now without any kind of vote, that's how important Marxism is.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No no, Karl Marx was not a conservative but keeping that man alive and well at this point, without a proper reference to the ethics and moralities of our times in the dilemmas we face; is a conservative blunder.

Things have changed a significant amount since Karl Marx was about. Several discoveries in physics and proofs of our logic or lack of have been discovered throughout academia as well. A significant amount of them, could prove Karl Marx to be incorrect and fallacious as time progresses. Automation and machine processing for example, was not as significant during his time, so the future may have something else in store; to whom we consider to be law.