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[–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I mean it's like realizing people get taller when they're well-fed, and then you saying "people getting taller is because of those at the top rigging it to be so!" when in fact it's just nature

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

But asserting "it's just nature" is impossible to do in this case, since (((their))) influence is also present in any data anybody will find on the topic, making it impossible to separate the NATURAL element from the INFLUENCE element. To state that IT'S ALL NATURAL is simply unsubstatiated, given the pervasiveness of the INFLUENCE element. As such, my position is easily as valid as yours.

[–]ExistentialCrisis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Though I absolutely agree that our world is largely run by people who behave like parasites, that doesn't make them inherently unnatural. Everything IS nature, is natural. Even if you were to believe them Extraterrestrial, descended from ETs, possessed by extrademensional entities, or serving them, it all exists and so it is natural. Anything and everything in creation is natural.

The way things are is the way they are meant to be, they can not be any other way. Even when you percieve each and every decision and event as the formation of new realities/universes, what is in this universe in the natural result of everything that has happened.

I have called the people who run the world "unnatural" in the past myself. I think it's a desire to separate oneself from what they do and what they are, a refusal to admit connection, or the potential for sameness within one's self. Eventually I came to understand through observation that there's really only one thing here. All divisions are artificial. Our personality contructs/egos are built out of filters that create the perception of division between things, as a catalyst for the experience of novelty.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You've got it upside down. Every single being is unique and separate. That is what makes our value, among other things.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They obviously believe the official narrative that Science(!) has for explaining the human psyche and why we do what we do.

As you say, the data is corrupted, and although they may be influencing natural things, that does not make the results natural.