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autoandrophilia ("AAP"?)

Yeah that’s what they call it unofficially.

Hopefully there will be some actual research on this demographic, otherwise we will be stuck with a bunch of question marks on these topics.

Yeah hopefully there will be some official research done soon. There is a guy who does surveys about the topics and according to his surveys it seems AAPs are more genital-focused than AGPs (I.e they think more about the penis than AGPs about the vagina). Bisexual people seem to be the group who are the most AAP/AGP and AAP and AGP seem to correlate with each other, i.e a person can have both AAP/AGP (turned on by both masculinization/feminization). According to his surveys “lesbians” are as AAP as bisexuals but he has another definition of lesbian (homoflexible, including women who are attracted to men in some capacity too). In the only survey he where he distinguished between “strictbians” and “flexbians” then exclusively homosexual women had lower rate of AAP (the same rate as straight women). Reddit seems to be an unusually paraphilic place though. I was curious about how bisexuality works like (as there are some indications that bisexuality has another etiology than homosexuality, aka probably not a light form of homosexuality) so I made survey for bisexuals with 500 respondents and included questions about AAP/AGP, and it seemed like 60% of the respondents had some form of it. It’s probably quite common among people answering internet surveys overall as according to this study about half of the respondents of the internet survey they conducted seemed to have some form of erotic target identity inversion too. Perhaps paraphilias correlates with traits that makes a person more likely to spend time online.

EDIT: But I suspect weak forms of AAP/AGP are quite common in general population (but not as crazy common as on reddit though lol), but I think it’s probably as common as the sexual minorities combined (I think there is some data saying it's around 15% but I might recall wrong).

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I was curious about how bisexuality works like (as there are some indications that bisexuality has another etiology than homosexuality, aka probably not a light form of homosexuality) so I made survey for bisexuals with 500 respondents and included questions about AAP/AGP, and it seemed like 60% of the respondents had some form of it.

Bi woman here; not AAP (as far as I know), but also curious about how bisexuality works. Particularly because it seems to receive surprisingly little attention. Very interested to hear that it might have a different etiology than homosexuality; this is, for me-- as that GIF of Phoebe from Friends says-- "brand-new information"! Would you mind telling me more? (I pretty much always have my antennae straining to detect signs of anything bi-related.)

I've been thinking, and writing (mostly here on SaidIt), about the "you don't exist" sexual orientation lately; almost seems like I'm doing original work much of the time, given the dearth of material out there. Would be thrilled to find some bi-stuff that I didn't have to create myself!

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There hasn't been done much research on bisexuality as researchers have often been lazy and put homosexuals and bisexuals in a one big group and then compared the average of that to straight people (not caring if homosexuals and bisexuals might have had scores in opposite directions compared to straight people). But if bisexuality was in etiology a lighter form of homosexuality then we would generally expect in traits where homosexuals and heterosexuals tend to differ bisexuals would score somewhere in between heterosexuals and homosexuals. I think bisexuals tend to score somewhere between heterosexuals and homosexuals in gender conformity but in other traits bisexuals tend to score at the ends, not in the middle.

Homosexuals tend to have a higher rate of addictions than straight people but bisexual people tend to have higher rate of addictions than both groups. Bisexual women score higher on dark triad traits. Lesbians seem to have a higher criminality rate (judging by conviction rate) than straight women (seem to be a big gap between straight women and lesbians) but bisexual women seem to have a higher criminality rate than lesbians. Gay men in other hand seem to have a much lower criminality rate than straight men, but bisexual men seem to have a higher criminality rate than both gay men and straight men. Bisexual women score higher on sociosexuality than lesbians and straight women. Bisexual women tend to report a higher sex drive than straight women and lesbians. Bisexual men tend to rate high on curiosity. Bisexual people tend to score higher on neuroticism than other groups.

Researchers have started to realize that bisexuality and homosexuality might be different and it has been suggested that bisexual people might have some latent trait that makes them more open to experience. That latent trait could perhaps also correlate with more risk-taking, it wouldn't mean every bisexual person would be risk-taker, or that most would be, just a bit more likely, people are still individuals (many of the traits in the paragraph above are things men tend to rate higher on, and it's been theorized that lesbians might have been exposed to more prenatal androgens, so that could be the case for bisexual women too but with a different timing of the exposure masculinizing different things).

But there could be more than one etiology/pathway that leads to bisexuality, in that case these etiologies could have different correlations. Lately research has taken more notice of heteroflexible women which is a relatively big group, so one probably needs to study heteroflexible women and see if they differ from other bisexual women, and if different Kinsey scores correlate with different things.