Poor magic American performance at the olympics has the US media coping like no tomorrow

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[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The reformation removed a lot of the pagan elements

Really, what makes you say that? There are some who believe the complete opposite, and claim that the Protestant reformation was actually an attempt by the Germans to partially return to their pagan roots.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is a widely acknowledged idea that a large part of the the reformation was a return to bare bones, back to basics sola scriptura Christianity. In fact it's a common charge from the time that still lingers today within protestantism that Catholicism is mere pagan idolatry. As a catholic I know first hand that if a prot isn't complaining about the Marian aspect of Catholicism or making terrible interpretations of the book of john they're banging on about how we're just pagans pretending to be Christians.

I've never heard the charge reversed though.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly, it's also one of the reasons why I prefer Catholicism over Protestantism.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Same. When people say that my first response is always guilty as charged. Imagine disregarding the genius of Greek philosophy because they weren't Christian and it's not in the Bible.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It goes deeper than that. Those are our roots as a race. Disregarding the ancients is deracinating ourselves.

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    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Id assumed it had something to do with Nazism but thought perhaps it was an idea floated by liberals or conspiracists or something. I guess you can understand why the Nat socs would want to frame it that way. Funnily enough I was rereading the book himmler commissioned about the cathars the other day and Rahn the author makes the same point about them. He frames the cathars as blonde, blue eyed Aryans fighting a type of nationalist revolt against the corrupt and internationalist Catholics. It's actually a pretty good book.

    [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Really, what makes you say that? There are some who believe the complete opposite, and claim that the Protestant reformation was actually an attempt by the Germans to partially return to their pagan roots.

    If by that you mean that the consequent secularisation opened up room for the reemergence of pagan social norms, then you could probably make that argument, yes.