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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

Christianity started as a Jewish death cult that worshipped weakness and hated beauty and strength.

Based and Nietzschepilled.

I'm proud of you caspar.

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    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

    What did I just read?

    [–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

    Probably some spin-off version of recycled 19th century slander. There was a lot of Nietzsche-Wagner drama at the time and eventually the Wagner camp claimed that Nietzsche's insanity was owed to him being a mentally unstable "chronic masturbator" who caught syphilis from an Italian prostitute. The homosexual part seems new, though.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    The homosexual part seems new, though.

    This was probably 'discovered' in the 70s, that's when the 'discovery' that the ancient Greeks and Romans were actually all gay and paedophiles was made.

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      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

      Id be interested in reading that if you have a good source. I know that Freddy had a massive sperg fit over the Christian themes in I think Lohengrin -- our learned friends here remind me of him-- and that there was always speculation about his syphilis but I've never read about the homosexual allegations.

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        [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Cheers.

        [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

        That book's thesis doesn't make any sense because if it was true Nietzsche would be advocating for slave morality, not attacking it.

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          [–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

          Nietzsche made a point about what he calls slave morality. The fact he decided to identify such morality with the core institutionalised morality of his time, christianism, is another point. While christianism do have compassion elements - as every religion not made by some psycho - doesn't really show itself as particularly peaceful one through the history.

          There is no contradiction here. Master morality means valuing personal dignity and greatness, slave morality means valuing that which benefits the weak. The most violent and aggressive group in America right now are leftist "anarchists" who want everyone to grovel before their "social" values. The concept of slave morality does not refer to an inability to act, it refers to identifying with the weak, placing the cause of the weak over the cause of the noble and then justifying action on that basis. I can't see what's so hard to understand about this.

          [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          My point is that if he really was gay and resented Christianity because of it, his arguments against it would be slave morality as well, but he didn't do that. None of his arguments against Christianity come even close to suggesting that he was gay.

          Also, what on Earth makes you think I don't know Evola?

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            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            the fact that he was gay

            It's not a fact.

            [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            The Gay Science

            Nietzsche sus?

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            You're joking, right?

            [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            yes

            [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            What did they have against being lighthearted and carefree?

            [–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            since you are a futurist, heres a tip for the future: if you use the word 'based' you are already failing.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            He who says "lawl" in a reply should not throw stones.

            [–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            You're both retarded

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Stunning and brave.

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Now only the worship of weakness and hatred of beauty remains.

            That's basically Julien Rochedy's argument. In the secularized West we've ended up with Christianity's worst aspects. All the great aspects - what few there were - were removed by liberalism.

            [–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

            The reformation removed a lot of the pagan elements

            Really, what makes you say that? There are some who believe the complete opposite, and claim that the Protestant reformation was actually an attempt by the Germans to partially return to their pagan roots.

            [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            This is a widely acknowledged idea that a large part of the the reformation was a return to bare bones, back to basics sola scriptura Christianity. In fact it's a common charge from the time that still lingers today within protestantism that Catholicism is mere pagan idolatry. As a catholic I know first hand that if a prot isn't complaining about the Marian aspect of Catholicism or making terrible interpretations of the book of john they're banging on about how we're just pagans pretending to be Christians.

            I've never heard the charge reversed though.

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Exactly, it's also one of the reasons why I prefer Catholicism over Protestantism.

            [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Same. When people say that my first response is always guilty as charged. Imagine disregarding the genius of Greek philosophy because they weren't Christian and it's not in the Bible.

            [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            It goes deeper than that. Those are our roots as a race. Disregarding the ancients is deracinating ourselves.

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              [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Id assumed it had something to do with Nazism but thought perhaps it was an idea floated by liberals or conspiracists or something. I guess you can understand why the Nat socs would want to frame it that way. Funnily enough I was rereading the book himmler commissioned about the cathars the other day and Rahn the author makes the same point about them. He frames the cathars as blonde, blue eyed Aryans fighting a type of nationalist revolt against the corrupt and internationalist Catholics. It's actually a pretty good book.

              [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Really, what makes you say that? There are some who believe the complete opposite, and claim that the Protestant reformation was actually an attempt by the Germans to partially return to their pagan roots.

              If by that you mean that the consequent secularisation opened up room for the reemergence of pagan social norms, then you could probably make that argument, yes.

              [–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              This is probably a US demoralization PSYOP.

              Not that it works take much, given the empty stadiums, local protests, etc.

              A lifetime of hard work and dedication. For what?
              All has been tainted by Marxist racial politics, and a scamdemic.

              [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              I'm not really sure what you're saying. Can you clarify?