Greek court rules Golden Dawn party criminal organization

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I know I'm going to get downvoted for this, but groups like Golden Dawn are an optics disaster for us. LARPing as 1930s fascists isn't the way forward. The new and more intellectual suit-and-tie approach is much better, and more successful.

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You can't get downvoted here :)

While I tend to agree, I'm still furious when these liars twist the concepts of truth and justice.

Nobody mentions two members of the Golden Dawn when they were killed. Everybody says they were failing party considering their results, but nobody mentions that Antifa inked good chunk of their ballots. Nobody mentions their offices being smashed.

And now THEY are the criminal organization, because some guy killed some antifa fuck in obvious self-defense, the lie is being pushed that all of it was organized, etc.

If they do it to the Golden Dawn, you can bet they will do that to suit-and-tie people. Best example is Richard Spencer I guess.

[–]asterias 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

GD supporters were openly attacked everywhere and noone was arrested. It was obvious that the antifas were doing the dirty job under protection.

[–]Mr9to5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I mean, Greece circa 2009 was about as close to the Weimar Republic as it gets. Even worse when you consider the fact it was never as prosperous as pre-war Germany. It obviously wasn’t the greatest thing - but they also did have seats in government and it did take this long for it to be a problem. Caveman social conditions don’t exactly discourage being a caveman.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I mean, Greece circa 2009 was about as close to the Weimar Republic as it gets.

No, it wasn't. We can't even imagine what the Great Depression was like.

Even worse when you consider the fact it was never as prosperous as pre-war Germany.

Life in Greece circa 2009 was much better than life in pre-war Germany.

[–]Mr9to5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Indifferent, even if true. No one in a crisis cares about a “suit and tie” image. It would be nice if groups like Golden Dawn wouldn’t get into military costumes and crap that bring the hammer down - but I’ll take setting up soup kitchens, morale building group activities, hardline ideological clarity and the ability to mobilize masses over “optics” any day.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the ability to mobilize masses

We'll talk again when that finally happens.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Circa 2009, Greece was (and still is) a failed state. There were people who were fed up with the corruption and demanded this to change, and somehow GD managed to express this feeling. With a better leadership, things might had turned out differently, but still it was obvious that the politicians wouldn't allow a change to take place.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Many believe that Mihaloliakos was far from being a good leader despite his claims.