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[–]passionflounder 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not news. It's already clear that he lied. That has been obvious- even to those who could do something about it if they wanted.

[–]GuyWhite 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Remember when Fauci told us we didn’t need a mask. Then told us we needed to wear three layers of mask. That Wop couldn’t give a straight answer to save his life.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The daily mail writes a lot of fucking stupid things, and this is a prime example.

It's not a lie: You can have different standards of gain-of-function research, but it's fucking obvious that Fauci would use the term consistent with the NIH moratorium on gain-of-function experiments.

The Daily mail is trying to manufacture outrage, and Rand Paul has been spreading misinformation about Covid as part of the politicization of lies by the nutcase wing of the GOP for literally years.

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Average age of their readership is 58, so practically they are targeting the demented.

On RES (browser extension), I have blocked any link pointing to them.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good thinking.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What are you saying, anybody approaching 60 is demented? Please support your claim with some evidence.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People in their late fifties might suffer from early-onset dementia but it is not common. By age 78 some dementia is common. On the other hand we can say that some people in their twenties have never been able to think clearly.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You might want to figure out what a hyperbole is and redo high school before engaging in further conversation.

I hope you are not going to ask for evidence for that too. Look another style figure. Guess which one it is.

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There isn't different standards or concepts of gain-of-function. The NIH moratorium applied to the US as well, which is why providing federal funding for it was banned.

Fauci has been a loud supporter of gain-of-function research, suggesting that the medical community can't effectively prevent devastating disease without it, that standards are strict enough to ensure safety, and that an accident wouldn't be likely to happen. You can find his published statements of such scattered over medical journals.

Various pandemic preparedness plans were generated since Obama got caught with America's pants down in regards to the half dozen or more near-close-pandemic-calls during his two terms. One of the biggest finally finished when Trump go into office. It was 10+ years in the making and Trump merely signed it, but in Democrat fashion, Biden threw it away, resubmitted the same thing, slopped in some gender equality talk, and pretended he replaced Trump's.

The theme has always been all-of-government response, meaning no one department or agency is in charge, and embed in all the other countries' research and heath detection, to get forewarning of emerging global dangers.

Wuhan was a part of that foreign outreach. We gave them money in the recent years, to improve their safety for handling potentially deadly strains of pathogens. We were likely monitoring them and their work closely still.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There isn't different standards or concepts of gain-of-function. The NIH moratorium applied to the US as well, which is why providing federal funding for it was banned.

The NIH reviewed the research that was done at the Wuhan Lab during the moratorium on GoF research and they funded it. So it didn't meet their criteria for GoF.

And that's how we know Fauci was being dead honest when he said that the research wasn't GoF.

Trying to drum up outrage by retrofitting a new meaning of "gain of function" is just a dick move. Do something meaningful with your time.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Trying to drum up outrage by retrofitting a new meaning of "gain of function" is just a dick move. Do something meaningful with your time.

You are the one pretending their is more than one meaning. Please educate yourself and lookup some of Fauci's papers on it. I have not time to argue with people who don't know the basics....yet again.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The NIH reviewed the research that was done at the Wuhan Lab during the moratorium on GoF research and they funded it. So it didn't meet their criteria for GoF.

If there's only one meaning, the Fauci is vitally telling the truth. The whole "he lied about GoF" depends upon disagreeing with the NIH definition.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There is only one meaning. I have no way to know what anyone funded, researched, and I damn sure don't trust what the NIH said they reviewed in retrospect. We've already learned from FOIA released emails that the NIH and CDC were conspiring and lying to the public.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then Fauci didn't lie. That was no gof research funded during the moratorium on gof research.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The crime of perjury is rarely prosecuted in the US. I would like to see him convicted since his lies—in my opinion—affected the lives of millions within the US.

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fauci flat out lied under oath, multiple times. He also was found to have perpetrated an active conspiracy of deception around those lies and likely in efforts to increase his or others' personal gain.

His emails were particularly damning.

The problem is that most of these medical people in government are on corporate payrolls and there is somehow a systematic ignoring of the normal requirements to shed conflicts of interests when taking government public service roles.

These pharma-corp puppets refuse to divulge their private corporate ties, employments, backings, and lobbying agreements. They should all be dumped and replaced with public servants who can adhere to ethical standards of disclosing, if not removal from conflicts of interests.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's a crypto-Jew through Swiss side.

[–]Kuroi77 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not surprising at all...