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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is all the more valid considering the high number of cycles that are used to identity any virus. The sample can show just about anything, like dead nucleoids or something like that, but groups like the CDC keep making the claim that these samples are proof that everything is caused by a virus.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Kary Mullis is dead.

It's been a couple of years now.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Doesn't make him wrong.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

It makes him out of date and not as capable of sound scientific reasoning as he was when he was alive.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Some things still don't change this easily in a timely sense. Like facts.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The fact is that PCR won't multiply up RNA that's not in the sample.

He's right that it will detect a single virus, which isn't useful for knowing if that what is making you sick. But it does detect the virus.

But he's not talking about the PCR test for CoVID-19, which is very targeted and very accurate.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So why is then that even the labs themselves give very different messages for its sensitivity ?

That some of them run two different tests on the same sample to rule out some false positives ?

It isn't as accurate as advertised because it is a test. Hence, it follows the laws of stochastic, quite naturally.

Mathematically speaking, its sensitivity relies strongly on the assumed prevalence. Estimates of this value are erroneous. It is an estimate in every case.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So why is then that even the labs themselves give very different messages for its sensitivity ?

For instance?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not your personal search engine, fyi.

I've seen reported sensitivities around 85%, which is moderate at best even after eliminating outliers.

Above that: The nature of these tests depends severely on the assumed prevalence (of e.g. 3%) in the general population, which you completely ignore because it is an argument harder than steel contradicting your opinion.

Read up first and then discuss.

Also: If this still isn't enough for you to rethink, we can start picking apart testing groups by age and their corresponding quantiles in those tested subsets.

People died with a Corona-Infection (at best, hence, so to say), only very, very seldom from it.

After that, of course, they hid or destroyed most of the bodies or documents as fast as they possibly could to undermine any systematic efforts to autopsy them for their real cause of death. Which of course also could have undermined the tests as "adequate" themselves.

I've seen statistics made by German colleagues of mine that do good estimates on the sum of life-time lost during Corona and gained at the same time due to Influenza-deaths going down because people were wearing masks and isolating themselves.

If you could a price on a day a human life is worth per day lived, we gained - more or less - nothing in measurable lifetime surplus of the general population. But the assumed credibility of the tests -true or not- played a big role in justification.

At gigantic cost for societies and economies in the future due to a severe rise in psychic problems of people less than 18 years old from lockdowns alone.

I'm not even talking about the world economy taking a planned nosedive here.

These mostly nonsensical tests just caused cost that surely ain't more than pocket-change in relation to the effect of the masses believing into them had so far.

Which all the bobbleheads around the world strongly needed to justify their swing to authoritarian, sometimes even almost martial-law statecraft.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not your personal search engine, fyi.

If you make claims that you can't back up, then people aren't going to believe you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't give a shit about your astroturf accounts, fyi.

Look at yourself instead:

I'm explaining each and every argument, and your reaction targets my "credibility" this time (which is a hallucination anyway).

This is like you admitting you're out of arguments and above that even quite insane because you aren't able to confront even one I served.

So you pathetically try to divert attention. Which will have the same result again: Me hitting your temple (rhetorically) with arguments again.

People following this will recognize. Most of them don't vote. So even you can see my ability to actually close this little circle here.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If your reasoning were half as good as his is, even though he's dead, I'd respect you twice as much.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If your internal reasoning is as good as that in your comments, your respect commends better with it's absence than it's presence.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You got it.