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[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Your history knowledge is lacking. Jews could be part of the order in ancestry only, even from its incorporation but only if they renounced Judaism and followed the Way; took a vow of poverty and piety, and preached the Gospel.

For there is neither Jew nor Greek, not Roman in Christ. We are all Brothers in Christ.

The late 1590's was the enacting of the Blood purity laws as hundreds of Catholic Jesuits became fed-up with Crypto-Jews taking over the order. These laws lasted a mere 10-15 years. From that time, there were many crypto-Jews that became members of the order, oftentimes, with the goal of delegitimizing and destroying it from within.

these methods were largely successful in facilitating the continuance of Jewish life ‘under the noses’ of the Christian host society. During this successful period, conversos were able to expand nepotistic monopolies of influence in a wide range of civic and even (Christian) religious spheres. When it failed, however, the consequences could be catastrophic. Maryks points out (xxii) that from its founding in 1540 to 1593, the Society of Jesus had no discriminatory legislation against individuals of Jewish heritage, and that during this period converso Jesuits “held the highest administrative offices, and defined the Society’s institutional development and spirituality.” However, significant resistance to this crypto-Jewish monopoly had developed by the latter date, and from 1593 to 1608...

“Being children of this world, pompous, cunning, fake, self-seeking, etc., it is certain that they fit religious life very badly and that it is impossible to maintain union with them. If those of this blood are made superiors, they employ almost all their government in external things: they promote genuine mortification and solid virtues very little, and seem to be merchants, seeking first seats and being called rabbis; they are hardly eager to seek perfection that is described in the parts 5 and 6 of the Constitutions; and readily admit others of the same blood who are very unworthy.”

~ Manuel Rodrigues, Jesuit curia in Rome.

Possevino the Jew, blamed “envious and talentless men from poor, rural backgrounds” (168) for the agitation against the conversos, while asserting that “in terms of their virtue and dedication, [conversos] represent an elite within the Society.” (172)

https://luis46pr.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/jwewewewewew.jpg

By the late 1950’s, the Crypto-Jews had amassed enough power within the Church to be able to remake it in their image, making it more worldly and cosmopolitan. And they officially began the process on 11 October 1962 by convening the Second Vatican Council.

And can you guess who led the effort in the Council to change the Church’s stance on Jews? It was this Jesuit Cardinal, Augustin Bea (seated, next to his rabbi co-conspirator, Abraham Joshua Heschel).

As for getting the Church “to give up proselytizing Jews,” that would have to wait until the Crypto-Jewish takeover of the Church was fully completed with the installation of the first Marrano pope, Pope Francis, who grew up surrounded by Jews and Brothels.

So it is now the official stance of the Roman Catholic Church that the death of chickens Jews sacrifice to expiate their sins…

http://redefininggod.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/chickensac.jpg

...is fully equivalent to the death of Jesus Christ to expiate sins…

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Jewish conversos and Crypto Jews aren't the same!

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And? Loyola was a converso, others were crypto-Jews whose goal it was to infiltrate the Jesuit order.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Hahaha. Loyola himself wished he was Jewish, ironically admitting he wasn't one himself. You see how this guy spreads disinfo /u/magnora7? If you are not careful, these Catholic dudes will completely destroy Saidit.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Magnora7 doesn't care about your fallacies, Zionist. Have you read Loyola's spiritual exercises? He did renounce his ways and took a vow of poverty, praying in a cave for years before preaching the gospel.

Why would anyone wish to be racially Jewish? Does that matter to you? He was ethically Jewish as were many others in the inital Jesuit incorporation but not the majority.

/u/Horrux

You see how this guy spreads disinfo /u/magnora7? If you are not careful, these Catholic dudes will completely destroy Saidit.

You are the one pushing censorship, not me.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Loyola's reasoning was that he wanted to be of the same race or group that Jesus belonged to...

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please provide evidence for this claim. Loyola wanted to be related to the Judahite Hebrews that were all but gone in his time, not the Pharisees who are the Jews today. Do you think the Jews today are the Judahites?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, genetically half Caananite, half divine? We probably all want the half divine part at the very least...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao. You should pick up a new shill. This was one has been so exposed. Your decades late. Idiot

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Please explain the difference. Not just in process, but in result. I am intrigued, since to me they're all just evil jews who hide their true identity for nefarious purposes.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Jewish converso would imply a ethnic Jew or a Jesuit with Jewish ancestry or a convert that formerly practiced Judaism but humbly and with good faith practices Christianity and follows Christ.

A crypto-Jew or Marrano, would imply eithet a Jew pretending to be a Christian but secretly practicing Judaism for safety reasons or so as not to get expelled or a Jew secretly practicing Judaism while maintain a Christian caricature to subvert the church. In the latter case, these were the notable usurers and slave traders.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah. I hold that there are no true Jew conversos.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Loyola definitely was but he wasn't a practicer of Judaism he just had past Jewish ancestry.