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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Exactly. So few people understand these CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES.

Capitalism is indissociable from Socialism, while Communism lies completely at the other end of the political/economic spectrum from the capitalism/socialism end.

Communism is always extremely authoritarian, whereas capitalism/socialism usually has been much less authoritarian.

But we are seeing a huge rise in authoritarianism. It's not good at all.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Maybe you're the fish who doesn't know what water is.

ALL governments are tyranny. It's easy to look at weird foreign nations and say, "I'd never accept that," yet we all do every day with other quirks of our nations.

Most Canadians don't give a flying fuck about the Queen and many actually believe we became an independent Dominion Of Canada in 1980 or 1981 - but she's still on our money and our government is TOTALLY accountable to her and exploits us all in her name.

You're feeling the heat rise, but still not realizing it's water.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well no. YOU believe the same as everybody else. I am denouncing a psyop to make everybody believe the same thing.

Being numerous doesn't make you right.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Well no. YOU believe the same as everybody else."

Then proove it. Otherwise you're just a contrarian.

"I am denouncing a psyop to make everybody believe the same thing."

Correction: You are claiming to denounce, yet have neither denounced, disproven, nor proven anything.

"Being numerous doesn't make you right."

This is true. Being a lone voice doesn't either.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Capitalism/socialism usually has been much less authoritarian.

Socialist countries are typically authoritarian. Capitalist... not so much.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Depends what you mean by authoritarian.

Canada is not communist but it is socialist, though not as much as it once was, at least for the people, but in many ways is much more. Canada has more freedoms than the USA, yet at the same time, in many ways has far less. Canada has the most red-tape in the world in general which is especially problematic for small business owners.

I can't speak to socialist Northern Europe and Scandinavia as I've never been there.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Absurd.

Canada, Northern Europe and Scandinavia are not socialist.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes we are. Now you're being absurd.

Further, there's no more of an authoritarian gesture than to wage war on another nation to bring them "democracy" or some such shit (when they don't even have it themselves). The USA is at war with at least 8 nations right now.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, if only somebody asked me to clarify what Socialism ACTUALLY MEANS outside of the vast psyop to make everybody believe some COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA definition of the term, then everybody would get along and everything would become clear.

But nobody's asking. Until then, no explanation will be provided and these conversations will run in circles barren of understanding or even agreement.

See how the psyop is doing its thing. But nobody wants out of it I guess? Happy to disagree and not understand each other I guess?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Socialist countries are ALWAYS capitalist. Capitalist countries are ALWAYS socialist­. They go together. You can literally NEVER have one without the other. Well I guess you could but then it wouldn't be a country, or a nation. It would be just some strange Mad Max post-apocalyptic world.

Communist countries are always authoritarian, yes. But the commies got to your mind, co-opting the term "socialism" to THEIR uses, installing the virus of communist thought in there long ago, turning you into an unwilling, unconscious but very real advocate of their shit.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Absurd

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Only absurd because you've been brainwashed with a false definition of the word "socialism" that conflates it with communism, when in fact it stands in direct opposition to it.

Case in point, why did the national SOCIALISTS of Germany perform their only aggressive war against the COMMUNISTS? Isn't that strange?

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's springtime. You need to nestle down outside on some green grass and read a little WW2 history.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, when I'll be asked for proof, I'll prove it. And then you guys will all pretend like this conversation never took place. Brainwashing is that strong.

I've done the same thing at various places and that's what always happens. Proof provided, deafening silence ensues, and everyone runs away trying and succeeding at avoiding thinking about how their view of the world has been utterly tampered with.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)