Props to Josh at kiwifarms for giving 0 fucks.

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[–]HurricaneHank 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have no clue who this guy is, or anything about his site, but one danger is that if you give them the finger, they can go after your upstream.

We've seen that before, and there's more and more pressure on the upstream providers to shut off "noncompliant" sites. Then you have, at least, a headache. There's pressure on DNS too, to stop resolving addresses, and most people won't know how get there with a raw IP address.

I can't say if any of that will happen here and it might not, but it wouldn't surprise me too much either.

Also, IP blocks. True, you can get around those if you know how, but most people don't know how, so in practice they are fairly effective. Next is the ban on VPN and VPS address blocks, as China has started doing, to make it harder to circumvent the national firewalls.

I feel it's inevitable that we are going to see more and more balkanization of the internet over events like this.

[–]AschTheConjurer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All those tech risks are certainly viable, but as he says in the email, our country doesn't have any clout or political power to properly censor it all without outside assistance.

Moreover, they can't really prevent the new zealand public from looking for it, because we don't own any of our internet infrastructure. It's all on loan from Spark/Telecom, so it'd be up to Telecom to fuck with Kiwi Farms upstream

EDIT: Welp, I guess outside assistance was what they got, now that the social networks have basically doxxed anyone who shared that video to our police. We thought Article 13 would kill edgy memes, but the NZP beat them to it.

[–]HurricaneHank 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Welp, I guess outside assistance was what they got

Ugh :-( Yah... these days there seems to be a lot of cooperation between the countries doing this, who all want broadly the same kind of censorship powers over the net. They can request that the other ones help them. I'm sure they got a lot of help from the USA, and maybe the EU too.

The problem of course, is that people who are NOT extremists, racists, alt-right or alt-left, but just normal everyday people who dislike censorship, we get pushed into the fringes too and then it's easy to lump us together with the kind of extremist elements who go shoot up mosques. We get branded with the same iron, whether we deserve it or not, simply because of the encroachment of society-wide censorship of the normal social spaces.

[–]Troll 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Remember /r/coontown on reddit? My intention with that (as one of its founders) was to have it banned for what it said and not what it did, which was a huge success. It was to have guys like you see what the left really is about.

In the announcement thread for its banning, I suspect reddit went back to it months or years and edited the vote totals to hide the comments of people who were upset with the censorship.

Of course, having people aware of black crime statistics, even in a crude manner, was useful too.