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[–]niggerjewfaggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the info. I hadn't previously thought of this much Russian involvement in destabilizing the M.E. but this general problem has come to our attention in recent years, as Russian hackers and political bribes have tried to destabilize also US, German, French, and British politics, not to mention Afghanistan, Syria, India, China, Brasil, Turkey, and any other place that can can be turned to an authoritarian shithole. I do recall the earlier Iraq and Iran connections. That said, my main claim in the earlier post is that Israel has been involved in arranging the intel, hacking, false flags, assassinations, bombings and other forms of support in the destabilizaiton of M.E. and world politics, and that the US has supported Israel on all operations. I base this on what has been in the news, rather than hidden conspiracy claims. So, I agree with you, though would argue that Israel (with US support) has also been closely involved in M.E. problems.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Israel has been involved in arranging the intel, hacking, false flags, assassinations, bombings and other forms of support in the destabilizaiton of M.E

No come on......if Israel had set itself the task of destabilizing the ME then we would be living in a world with a far less stable ME.

Here are some facts about Iran. If you want to know what it looks like when a nation has an official state policy of destabilizing the middle east, here's what it looks like

https://www.ifmat.org/04/16/map-of-irans-regional-proxy-forces-in-the-middle-east/

https://i0.wp.com/www.ifmat.org/archiver/2021/04/ifmat-Map-of-Iran-regional-proxy-forces-in-the-Middle-East.jpg

Edit - oh, the map isn't even complete really because it doesn't show their proxies in Kenya or Nigeria and probably others I'm missing.

Do you want to destabilize the middle east? Why not capture oil tankers in the gulf. Iran did it twice last month. For no reason other than to destabilize.

So, no, Israel is not destabilizing. In fact every time Israel does one of the hacks or assassinations you talked about, there's a.direct link back to the threat against Israel. Actually it wouldn't make sense otherwise and here's why: Israel have more enemies than uniformed personnel. Therefore they have to expend effort prioritising the most dangerous people and places to the israeli state, and work down the priority list, never ever getting far enough down that they can fuck around just destabilizing for the sake of it but instead being trapped in the "first let's deal with this guy smuggling bomb parts into our border city".

Let's say, tomorrow, a miracle happens, and the Iranian government falls, and Putin shits his diaper one final time, and peace falls over the region.

What does Israel do now. Does it operate a policy of positively destabilizing the middle east for the sake of it? No, it protects it's borders, makes money doing big tech, and watches movies eating burgers like every other western country. That's because their goal was always self defense instead of taking positive acts to fuck with other nations. That's how I see it anyway. It's always the dictators who govern through force, doing to destabilizing. Democracies who trade have NEVER in history gone to war with each other.