Reddit response to a post about a trans identified male saying that when wombs become available he'll use them to make white babies. Antifa sub members are surprised and disappointed that trans fascism exists

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[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nonsense. Women and men get censored for having the wrong political views. Believe me, I’ve been going through this bullshit for nigh-on a decade now - with feminists leading the denouncements.

Intersectionality arose in feminism. It’s a natural progression from the identity oppressor/oppressed narrative. You’ve been kicked out of the clubhouse your ideology built. I find that hilarious, and I don’t see feminism having anything to contribute towards pushing back against identitarian movements. You’re not needed, so settle in and enjoy the pit.

[–]Immortallogic[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Women get censored (or heavily downvoted) for having any kind of views that question something a male does and that's brings the reality of sex into the mix.

Having the 'wrong' political views is simply another layer.

Intersectionality is a reality for millions of people. Agree or not, if a person is a white male who belongs to the middle class socioeconomic status or higher, his life chances are better than most people. That's simply the world we live in. Is this a reason to be held back by ones sex/race/class? Not at all. But denying the reality of privelege is simply being ignorant, naïve, or dismissive.

The oppressor/oppressed "narrative" is reality. Ask colonialism. Ask victims of forced sex work (which makes up about 80% of the industry), child brides, victims of FGM. And the many other realities people face in a daily basis, because of who they are.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I’m not denying that women get censored. I’m saying that men and women get censored by this identitarian movement. Political views and worldview are why you’re being censored. It’s not always ‘because vagina’, no matter how much the paranoid and narcissistic feminist view would wish it to be.

Yes, intersectionality is real in that traits combine to shape the experience. Where I object is to generalising this to individuals. Not every white male is cruising around in a Bentley. It’s the collectivist mindset that prejudges people (men oppressors, women oppressed).

Women in the West live longer than men, receive lighter sentences for equivalent crimes, earn more in their 20s, achieve degrees at a higher rate, have a government minister devoted to their sex, have campaigns in academia and the corporate world to encourage them, have preferential treatment in STEM, quotas in some political parties, and are less likely to be victims of violent crime. Does that sound like oppression? If you’re in the West then you are highly unlikely to face any of those issues you described. Feminists use brown people problems to vicariously experience the oppression they can’t find in their comfortable lives. If issues in brown people countries bother you, and they should, then do something to help in those countries! Stop claiming their victimhood as your own.

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[–]LeyMio 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You are censored by men above you, not the "feminists". It is hilarious how beta males don't even have the guts to admit it just because being under other men makes them feel ashamed. Women can live longer because they do less shit to themselves and other people. Women are the victims of men's crimes. That is the definition of being oppressed. Men who commit violent crimes are oppressing others. Why playing as victims when you are the cause of all the problems?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Men who commit violent crimes are oppressing others.

I knew we was kings and shit

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Focussing on gender says a lot about how you ascribe agency. It's not dissimilar to how a racist sees skin colour as being salient when somebody mistreats them. Notice that I do not blame women. I blame feminists, and most women are not feminists. For the sake of treating people fairly I'd suggest you focus on the necessary rather than the incidental. I'll elaborate a little on this to get you started.

Is it necessary for Jack Dorsey or George Bridges (Evergreen State College) to be men in order to be censorious? Is it necessary for Ellen Pao or Susan Wojcicki to be women in order to be censorious? No, what unites these people is their hewing to an authoritarian leftist worldview driven by treating people differently based on identity. Is it necessary for Kathleen Kennedy to be a woman in order to horrifically mismanage Star Wars through arrogance and feminism? No, it's not necessary any more than Chris Chibnall (Doctor Who) and Alex Kurtzman (Star Trek) needed to be male in order to ruin their respective franchises. Again, it comes down to worldview.

Censorship is being driven by political views. I'd certainly be interested in hearing examples where you have been censored simply for being a woman and when expressing views entirely unconnected by politics. Do you have any?

[–]LeyMio 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The topic is not about any issue that both women and men are facing, but the hatred specifically targeted at women. Liberal feminists are politicians' puppets, and they exist for the purpose of serving men. Radical feminists are advocating for women's basic human rights and have always been excluded from the mainstream. The society is divided based on people race and gender. All political parties should be made accountable for the disaster. No one is arguing about whether men could face negative consequences from the political war. However, it does not change the fact that women's situation is much worse. As a guy, you can choose to be on either political side and receive different benefits from it. Women are politically homeless with no real "choice".

From what I have seen, people claim to be against "feminists" just for the sake of bullying the easiest targets. Like many other unpopular males, you are trying to get a sense of social acceptance by joining the witch-hunting crowd.