I just wanna say... FUCK YOUTUBE! I was watching a live video from a conservative black lady dropping truth bombs, and less than 7 minutes in, they cancelled it saying: "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service." Bull. Fucking. Shit. Fuck you, YouTube. Your CEO is a cunt.

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[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Ah fair enough. I recall a "Gad" being a type of short bladed weapon so perhaps that was where I mistook it. Unless the Gladfly being a major pain in the arse got its name from that as well. Socrates suicide might be one of the most poetic things to ever happen in history.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I haven't heard of a gad being a blade, maybe if it is a short blade it is considered not as big a deal as a larger sword so someone might say it's just a gad blade, a minor annoyance compared to a large sword which will kill you? Not sure.

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've heard of it being either a really short blade, spike or even a particularly nasty stick. Maybe its just a colloquialism though?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

yeah I just googled it looks like in socrates time they said something else but in translations it is gadfly a norse, or german word.

gadfly (n.)

also gad-fly, 1620s, "fly which bites cattle," probably from gad (n.) "goad, metal rod," here in the sense of "stinger;" but the sense is entangled with gad (v.) "rove about" (on the notion, perhaps, of the insect's power of flight or of the restlessness of animals plagued by them), and another early meaning of gadfly was "someone who likes to go about, often stopping here and there" (1610s). Sense of "one who irritates another" is from 1640s (equivalent of Latin oestrus; see estrus). "In strictness, only the females are gadflies, the males being smaller and quite inoffensive, living on juices of plants" [Century Dictionary]. Earlier bot-fly, from bot "skin parasite" (late 15c.).

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Josh+Gad

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'd love to see a contemporary adaptation of Socrate's trial somehow - kind of like how they remake Shakespeare modern.

Or they could set Socrates in Shakespeare's time, or make him a Renaissance man, or a 50s/60s Rebel With A Cause.

Of course they'd sanitize and water it down instead of authentically speaking trutherisms to power.

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I want to see The Republic made into a 10hr feature film in all its gritty sometimes meandering detail. If we can get that of a fucken midget throwing a ring into a cranky mountain surely one of the founding philosophical texts can be done?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Brobdingnagian Brokingnoggin, I agree, the story should be retold. I looked for my water damaged university copy of The Republic last year but couldn't find it. My little Symposium is missing too. I guess I lent or gave them away.

[–]Brokinnoggin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I bought a hardcover copy that I keep on my shelf. I read it prior to beginning a Social Work degree and quickly realised that none of those fuckers could define justice much less work towards it. I cited the discussion between Socrates and Glaucon as an argument against their idea's of what justice is and how it works, but all they kept coming back with was "we need to change this". Like, fucking how? Wide spread armed insurrection? No, capital funding from the wealthy that have vested interests in keeping the masses placated, just as Socrates and Claucon discussed.... Useful idiots the lot of them.

Edit: I quickly moved over to psychological sciences, so I could actually be useful...

Fuck that was a decent old 7am rant..

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good rant!

I don't recall hearing anything about psychological sciences and can only guess at what's actually behind the name. Care to give a brief description? I was never into anything remotely related until I started getting deep into conspiracy theories, the deep state, psyops, propaganda, and the arts of persuasion, manipulation, deception, exploitation, and extermination via Machiavellianism, or basically: the levers of power and control.

[–]Brokinnoggin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Its basically the long name for a psych degree. Where I live anyway.