Every day is feeling closer to 1984.

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

You are confusing socialism with communism.

Communism controls the means of production. Corporations controlled by government. This is totalitarianism.

Socialism regulates and provides social services, including safety nets, paid for by taxes. Corporations are taxed.

Capitalism "regulates" and externalizes costs as much as possible. Corporations control the government. This is inverted totalitarianism.

All have pros and cons and all are utterly corrupted by humans.

My recent thoughts on Jews. Zionist Jews don't just control Hollywood, they also control all the banks and Washington and all the levers of power beyond, including the Christian Zionist NeoCons, Wahabbits, Vatican, all royalty, B.I.S., Europe, Russia, China, and all internationalists/globalists. This centralized power in Zionism stuff is a very real problem - and we're seeing their plans play out now, across the world, but like in historical orchestrated crisis of epic proportions. Welcome to WW3 and Fifth Generation Warfare.

I like your purpose outline and concur.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here is a good example of the soft sell of Socialism that's cynically targeting you and the reason you were confused:

https://www.reference.com/world-view/difference-between-socialism-communism-e1d6108cb2d94246

The primary difference between communism and socialism is that communism is a political system and socialism is chiefly an economic system. >Communism focuses on putting the working class in charge of society by having the government control the means of production, whereas socialism focuses on making sure that all individuals have their basic needs met.

Yeah, no it's not. The distinction is detailed in the post beneath (prior to) this one. Full stop.

Wikipedia is, of course, little better. A perfectly clear and concise definition fits into a single sentence. Here's Wikipedia's version of that sentence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Socialism is a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership[1][2][3] of the means of production[4][5][6][7] and workers' self-management of enterprises.[8][9] It includes the political theories and movements associated with such systems.[10] Social ownership can be public, collective, cooperative or of equity.[11] While no single definition encapsulates many types of socialism,[12] social ownership is the one common element.[1][13][14] It aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system in capitalism.[15][16][17][18]

Definitions matter. If you think you're advocating for Socialism, but you're not, then you're lending legitimacy to Socialism to all your friends who hear you and think "Socialism... huh..." .

In fact, that describes what's happened to you.

What people call Socialism and what is being sold as "Democratic Socialism" to make it more palatable, is Capitalism - private party ownership - with very very high rates of taxation and redistribution. This is what some people call the Nordic model.

Is Sweden socialist?

https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=is%20sweden%20socialist

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/

and so on. This is correct.

Venezuela literally became a Socialist nation under its past two Presidents-For-Life. They have huge amounts of natural resources including oil. Now they're eating dogs. Now they're being visited by government Death Squads.

It's interesting to note that Hollywood, in the form of the Amazon series Jack Ryan, had to reverse reality by 180 degrees to keep the "Socialism is for the people, Capitalists are fascists" meme greased.

If you want to experience actual propaganda first hand, turn on your TV and watch Jack Ryan on Amazon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4V3GaXFBY

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-jack-ryan-idUSKCN1VR2HT

https://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/jack-ryan-in-season-2-makes-venezuela-socialist-again-t21029.html

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/amelia-hamilton/2019/11/05/jack-ryan-season-two-supporting-social-justice-candidate

https://www.creators.com/read/john-stossel/12/19/hollywood-socialism

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/jack-ryan-gets-four-pinocchios-venezuela/

Calling redistributionist schemes Socialsim is more than just an error in nomenclature. It soothes fears of Socialism and makes it seem more familiar. Believe me, trash like Bernie Sanders are fully aware of this. Before they can implement REAL Socialsim, they have to take the sting out of the word, get Americans comfortable hearing it, fuzz a lot of distinctions, prepare the ground....

Want a conspiracy? Believe me the sites soft selling you their watered-down definition of Socialism are a part of a conspiracy of like minded individuals who are acutely aware of what they're doing and why. Communists and Socialists who work in unison towards their goal without explicitly coordinating have a name, a name they call themselves. Fellow Travelers.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fellow%20traveler

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fabian socialism w/ built in eugenics. Slow and long wins the race. Gradualism is their game.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.britannica.com/topic/socialism

Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

https://www.thebalance.com/socialism-types-pros-cons-examples-3305592

Socialism is an economic system where everyone in society equally owns the factors of production.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/020915/what-are-differences-between-capitalism-and-socialism.asp

KEY TAKEAWAYS Capitalism is a market-driven economy. The state does not intervene in the economy, leaving it up to market forces to shape society and life. Socialism is characterized by state ownership of businesses and services. Central planning is used to attempt to make society more equitable. Most countries are mixed economies, falling in between the extremes of capitalism and socialism.

There pages have nice tables or infographics:

https://www.thebalancesmb.com/the-characteristics-of-capitalism-and-socialism-393509

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/glossary/capitalism-v-socialism/

What you're calling Communism is actually Socialism. What is Communism? It's the end of private property, period. Everything is held communally.

Communism is this:

https://www.history.com/news/socialism-communism-differences

Both socialism and communism are essentially economic philosophies advocating public rather than private ownership, especially of the means of production, distribution and exchange of goods (i.e., making money) in a society. Both aim to fix the problems they see as created by a free-market capitalist system, including the exploitation of workers and a widening gulf between rich and poor.

Under communism, there is no such thing as private property. All property is communally owned, and each person receives a portion based on what they need. A strong central government—the state—controls all aspects of economic production, and provides citizens with their basic necessities, including food, housing, medical care and education.

By contrast, under socialism, individuals can still own property. But industrial production, or the chief means of generating wealth, is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-vs-communism/

Communism, on the other hand, is a branch of socialism. It’s similar in that it’s still founded on the idea of collective cooperation, but differs in that communists believe that cooperation should be run by a totalitarian government made up of one and only one government.

(amusingly, the last site claims "the USSR gave Communism a bad name..." lol)

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/communism-vs-socialism-simple-terms/

What is communism? Communism is a social and economic organizing system in which property is communally owned and every person receives wealth according to their needs and ability.

What is socialism? Socialism is an economic theory in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned and controlled by society as a whole.

https://libcom.org/forums/theory/there-any-private-property-under-socialismcommunism-22022012

In communism, the end of relations based on force, on violence and the universal antagonism of each against all … will presuppose the end of ownership rights over people and things. The abolition of private property means putting an end to their foundations: the domination of the “other” (man or nature); appropriation, which only perceives the other in relation to utility; and the generalized degradation of the relations between men and also between the latter and nature. One will no longer be able to “use and abuse” something, whatever it is, just because one owns it. Nothing will belong to anybody anymore.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Capitalism is a market-driven economy. The state does not intervene in the economy...

Bye, bye America. Cronyist corporatism fuels the American dream. Classical economics using silver certificates from an indepedent treasury is what freedom, liberty and privacy call for.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's just take things one at a time.

You are confusing socialism with Communism.

First I am going to link you to definitions that show you you are wrong . I consider these to be definitive, so I mean it as an absolute correction.

Then I am going defend your understanding as the popular one for which contradictions are hard to come by, so much so that my definitive correction may even seem to you pendantic, even though it's correct.

Finally I am going to argue that my pendantry is more than just that, it's substantive because of its implications.

I will try to get through this in the short time I have. If I can't do that, I'll post what I have and continue later until I am done. After that I'll read your responses and I would hope you read mine.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.theepochtimes.com/marx-didnt-distinguish-between-communism-and-socialism-why-should-we_3225448.html