Ukraine Narrative Gets Eviscerated in Front of United Nations

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[–]YoMamma 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

This Putin Simp is using that UN seat to spread obvious lies and half-truths.

It's very simple: the US should do its part in NATO to help Ukraine kick out the war criminals. And that's what's happening.

No, Ukraine and the US aren't doing what he's mentioned.

This asshole should be challenged on all of his statements. We need to see the responses to this misinformation. Note that none of his claims are accurate. None of them.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-the-sneakiest-defenders-of-vladimir-putins-ukraine-invasion-and-chinas-xinjiang-repression

[–]DirewolfGhost 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Ukraine isn't part of NATO and there are war criminals on every side since Cain killed Abel. The first victim of war is the truth. Trannies are mutilating, raping and shooting children in the US. I really don't care what happens to greater Israel's biolabs.

[–]bucetao6969 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Trannies are mutilating, raping and shooting children in the US

What that has to do with ukraine and US 😂

I don't like trannies either but they aren't doing the second thing that's just hating for the sake of hating

[–]DirewolfGhost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As I am not "hating for the sake of hating" I can only assume you are projecting. They are absolutely doing the second (though they are not the only group doing so).

Close problems should be solved before distant problems. That is what it has to do with Ukraine and the US.

[–]YoMamma 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ukraine isn't part of NATO

Obviously doesn't matter.

There are war criminals on every side since Cain killed Abel.

Not in this case.

The first victim of war is the truth.

Oh dear....

Trannies are mutilating, raping and shooting children in the US.

Bullshit

I really don't care what happens to greater Israel's biolabs.

Bullshit

[–]TiberSeptim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It does matter that Ukraine isn’t a part of NATO as it means we are not obligated to do anything we have no treaties of mutual defense. All of the weapons, money, logistical support, training is optional.

And as far as war crimes, what about the years long shelling of civilians In Donbas, and banning the Russian language from Ukraine before the invasion. Also, there’s the entire Azov Battalion who are basically nazis.

As far as trannies, I mean look up child transition it’s a pretty open secret how often troubled kids are pushed to transition and how far the state itself will go to make sure no contrary messages are sent or parents are kept from interfering.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Trannies are mutilating, raping and shooting children in the US.

Really?

Who are these trannies?

Who are these children?

And more importantly, can I get some of what you're smoking?

[–]DirewolfGhost 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Begone bot

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, cute.

You think a bot would be asking for clarification, and making jokes about you smoking crack.

That's hilarious!

Say something else stupid. It's starting to get entertaining!

[–]TiberSeptim 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Why? Why is it our fight? Ukraine, prior to the breakup of the USSR hadn’t been an independent country since before the American revolution. Before that it was split between Poland/Lithuania and Russia. Texas would thus need to be granted independence, and the entire Western Hemisphere with the exception of the eastern part of North America should be returned to Spain. It’s simply a case of selective outrage.

[–]YoMamma 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's not our fight. The US is not at war with Russia. Ukraine should defend itself, for many reasons, and NATO should support Ukraine's defense (though not any engagements within Russia or Crimea).

It's a NATO arrangement to support a neighbor who is suffering severely at the hands of THE nuclear country NATO was formed to defend against. Simple. There are also very serious geo-political reasons to be concerned about Russian bellicosity.

And regardless of personal opinion, Ukraine is a sovereign nation.

Also, democracies should support democracies.

[–]TiberSeptim 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Right, just arming and training Ukrainians. It’s a proxy war, which to me is the worst kind because we get to pretend to be above it all while other people are told to fight and die for us.

[–]YoMamma 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

other people are told to fight and die for us

WTF? Absolutely no one is fighting for the US in Ukraine. It's not a proxy war, not in the slightest. NATO is sending supplies and other forms of support for Ukraine to DEFEND itself, which it has NO CHOICE but to do.

YOU have no expertise while lounging in your mom's basemsent determining that Ukraine should merely allow itself to be slaughtered and bombed back to the stone age. Cut it out.

There are various kinds of conflict. One of which is a 'just conflict', in which one has the right and duty to defend oneself. That's what's happening.

NATO members SHOULD help. Numerous people are dying in Ukraine weekly, while DEFENDING Ukraine, not in support of NATO.

If Putin and his cronies truly believed for a second that NATO was at war with Russia, they'd attack NATO. Russia would also lose.

[–]TiberSeptim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or maybe, call me crazy, being a part of Russia isn’t as bad as being shot in the face? It has a choice, if it hadn’t chosen to align with the West, it would not be at war now, if it choses to be part of the Russian sphere of influence where it’s been since the days of George III, the war stops.

[–]William_World 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

US media is pro ukraine which tells me russia is the good guy in this

[–]Alphix 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Or at the very least, the less-bad... ;-)

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

yeah but I do think they're just worried about NATO surrounding them with nukes.

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My view exactly. And with good reason, especially after you've heard about OPERATION UNTHINKABLE, which was never really abandoned, only shelved for a later date.

[–]Alphix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Blumenthal on the money as usual.

[–]YoMamma 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No....

[–]neolib 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Independent" "journalist" from The Grayzone speaks on behalf of Russian state. So cool /s

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Did he name the jew?